(Mark 4 - UK Edition)
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Love Corrie...I just wish Stella andKarl wouldn't get so much air time. Ican't stand them! It's turning into the Stella show really. |
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Hey Jude I liked Maria's hair LAST night - Ha! You have a good memory about my not liking Maria. It was her voice I couldn't stand and I didn't think about it since her reappearance last night. I'll have to listen to her more carefully to see if it changed. |
| Angie: I didn't notice that, but I'll check my PVR later. I liked Maria's hair tonight (sounding like Mark, except he doesn't like Maria!)LOL |
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I guess that saying is true huh Mark. Behind every good man there's an evil woman pushing him. LOL Yes, Tracy is supporting the British economy and buying British but the clothes are probably made in a sweatshop in Bangladesh. Yikes! It sounds like that's where they're all made these days unless you buy your underwear from underworld. Then it's made in a sweatshop in Weatherfield. ;) Haven't seen any Corrie yet this week but planning to watch the two episodes on my PVR later tonight. |
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Stop talking about those Keys! I don't want the Weatherfield Police to find out about the keys. I like Carl and I think he should stay. I find the way those Corrie women keep pushing the men to do things they don't want to annoying. Stella pushing Carl to have dinner at Dev and to visit him. Then tonight Maria bugging Marcus to go to the wedding reception. I don't see why Izzy and Gary should be making medical decisions because they still didn't adopt Jake. |
 In Tracy's defence she uses the Star System. She doesn't smoke. She leads by example by not getting drunk and by not jumping on cars nor smashing windshields like the other Corrie women. And she buy her clothes at Marks and Spencers. |
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Agree with you haili, it does seem to be 'pick on Rob' week. I have a feeling he will bounce back though but he would do well not to follow any advise from Tracy. In a way she is the female version of Terry D when it comes to selling one's child. Which is worse selling you child to their grandparents or framing a man into thinking he is the father then charging him to keep the baby. Kettle/pot, pot/kettle. I never noticed Carla looking like she might be pregnant but had that thought about Maria when we saw her in the salon today. It may just be the top she was wearing at the time. What does Craig know??? Will have to watch the fire scenes again to see if he was lurking in the shadows somewhere. |
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Craig looks nervous about something and it wouldn't surprise me if he knows it's Karl but is afraid to come forward. Steve and Lloyd are getting suspicious now too about Karl trying to stop Dev.'s questions. I keep waiting to see Jason and Leanne get involved but they haven't been around much lately. I never noticed if Carla looks pregnant but it doesn't seem like that long ago she was away on maternity leave. I thought Michelle and Carla were mean, smug and nasty with Rob. How do they expect him to make a living if he can't work? He'd pretty well be forced into a life of crime. Carla wouldn't have lost much with what he stole since it was insured - and I know that was wrong! I often find that Michelle and Carla are nasty, smug and mean spirited and so was Peter when he docked so much of Rob's pay. I suppose Rob will be the next bad guy but maybe he can get a job driving a cab! Streetcars hires a lot of losers. |
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but Carla looks like she is pregnant in real life...... Anyone else notice? |
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| Julia: I just about cried when Tracy did that to Amy a few years ago - but I do have to say for me, Cilla and Jackie are the worst. If Tracy didn't have Steve, Ken and Deirdre to dump Amy on, she probably would have abandoned her! |
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Cilla and Jackie are tied for worst mom IMO and Tracy comes third. The first 2 abandoned their kids but Tracy never really does that; she dumps Amy on Ken and Dierdre. |
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I have to say I am totally on board with Tracy as worst mother - I initially said Cilla and Jackie - don't know how I missed Tracy! I know Emily has never been a mother but I think she would have been wonderful. Same goes for Hailey. If I got my pick for someone on the street to my Mum though, it would be Rita... |
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Rainbow, Plaid Cat: Worst Mum for sure is Tracy. What really
turned my stomach was when she threw a glass of red wine up
Amy's new dress Christmas morning, just because it was a gift
from Steve and she wanted her to wear the one that she had got
her. Totally disgusting!
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Oh Haili, I do look believe me, but at 70 I find nobody looks back (even though people tell me I look 50!) I have never seen Heartbeat or any other show that Nick was in so I can't really say much. I don't want to knock anybody heaven knows there are far too few handsome men in this world for us to drool over. (Now we are going to get a post from Mookie for sure claiming that we are suffering because we have never seen him!!) By the way, this new actor who is playing Superman in the movie seems to have been blessed by the "good looks" fairy! |
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I agree with everyone regarding the Dev/Karl situation. Dev
is going to continue in true Dev fashion going on and on and
on... . and Karl is going to get more and more stressed and
desperate.
I'm actually enjoying this storyline as it's great to see
where this is going and how and when Karl will be found out.
I'm feeling very Miss Marple-ish and have this urge to watch
the past episodes to see if we can locate the keys when
Sunita left, and who else was present that might suddenly
recall some vital piece of evidence...Maybe I should just
take the dog for a walk instead!
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JeanF, I became curious about what Nick Berry looked like now compared to his
Heartbeat days and found a 2011 video clip in which he was interviewed and,
with the emcee, looked back at his major acting successes in Eastenders,
Heartbeat, and Harbour Lights. What I think you would like, JeanF, is that he now
has the look of George Clooney -- short, grey hair, stylishly cut and a gardener's
tan. He's 50, but I always think of him as being older because he was Nick Rowan
in the '60s, altho' the filming took place in the '90s.
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| If Karl becomes more obviously threatening, that will surely arouse Dev's suspicions. It's about time Stella feel guilty for interfering between Dev and Sunita. |
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I think you are on the right track Shirley in your 5:31 post. Dev may not be able to convince the police to reopen the Rover's fire case but if Karl gets too anncy he may try to silence him. I think the 'keys' are a pivotal piece of evidence - waiting for one of the pub staff, Tina or more likely Sean to remember the extra keys were still on their hook after Sunita left the pub. And ofcourse, how did Sunita's house keys get back home? It will all be uncovered eventually though it may take more months before Karl slips up. Agree Vixen13, Dev was reverting to his hand waving acting style last night. lol He did have a lot of dialogue to get though to maybe that helped him remember it all. |
| Haili: Exactly! Dev doesn't know what we know, so of course he took it as advice and not a threat, I don't think it'll be long before he does start to get suspicious though. :) |
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JeanF: one is never too old to look! It's a bit like window shopping; you don't intend to buy but it's nice to look at the window display. Dev. still doesn't suspect Karl so he takes his remarks as advice, not as a warning. Why he even bothers with Karl is beyond me but I suppose it's for Stella's sake he even talks to him. He needs to talk to Jason and try to remember where every one was just before the fire started. Stella is looking much nicer since she started wearing more colour, but she could do with more colour in her makeup IMO. Tina does seem more nurturing than Izzy. |
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Daphne, ****SPOILER ALERT********* Karl WAS makung a veiled threat to Dev as upcoming show will illustrate. :) END SPOILER I am certainly glad I proofread this comment as my fingers were on the wrong keys and you would have thought this was in some sort of code! |
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Tina's nurturing instincts are showing, Izzy's and Gary's are not. I thought the comment Karl made to Dev was definitely a veiled threat but Dev took it as friendly advice. I am amazed that he even lets Karl speak to him, let alone feed him dinner. I would be telling Stella to keep him out of my sight. You go Dev! And keep digging. And don't forget to notice the keys:-) |
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I've gotta agree that Nick Rowan is extremely handsome..also loved how he pronounced Claude (greengrass) as 'Clood'. Dev has to come up with something more concrete if he wants the police to pay attention to what he's got to say. Yes, knowing what we know...Karl 'Warned' Dev. |
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I thought Dev's attempt to clear Sunita's name with the police was a very weak
one, indeed. He had no tangible evidence, but pointed to his head and heart as
evidence of Sunita's innocence. Say what? He needs to have something concrete
to share with the constabulary or they are going to think of him as the husband
who cried wolf and ignore him. I noticed that the actor's "style" was moving a
little more to the bombastic as he talked to the police and I silently wished he
stop it, as it sounds too phoney and is off-putting! I also thought, Shirley, that
Karl's "advice" to Dev was a veiled threat, more foreshadowing as Dev wouldn't
pick up on it, not knowing the back story -- yet.
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I'm in agreement with Mark and Haili that Nick Berry aka Nick Rowan was the eye
candy on Heartbeat. He was very nice looking AND he sang the theme song, so
he had talents in other areas. I enjoyed him tremendously.
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| Well I learned long ago that what one person thinks is handsome or beautiful is not another person's taste. I looked at Nick Rowan's picture again on the internet and was not impressed....my tastes go more to Michal Ball, the french singer from Il Divo and George Clooney. It is a good thing I am too old to expect a handsome man in my life as those men would have puddles of women lusting after them that I would have to wade through. Mind you in my life there have been a couple of very handsome men....I'm just saying! LOL But at my age, who cares? |
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Mark: I agree that Nick Rowan is the most handsome man on TV. You can go to the TVO site and check when they're running the episode they missed. They said they would run it soon but not when. Or tune in on Fri. night for a few weeks just in case it's on. I love the music on Heartbeat. Karl should keep his mouth shut around Dev. I think he'll trip himself up one of these days with his advice to drop it. |
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Worst Mom, sorry out of all the ones I thought of ( Gloria, Cilla, Jackie, Kristy ) it is Tracy. Best I think is Rita - I think she has mothered most of the kids on the street. Although Dev really does not have the evidence to clear Sunita, I think he is getting there. |
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Because Corrie is a soap opera:
We are all privy to the characters total life history,
giving us access to their thoughts and actions that are
"secret" from the other people in the Street. With this knowledge, I nominate Tracy Barlow as the Most Evil Female, as well as the Worst Mother (Current). Jackie Dobbs is Worst Mother (Past). Tracy: What evil deed has she not done? She 1) told Roy Cropper the fetus was his and extorted money so she wouldn't abort it; 1a) let Roy & Hayley believe that Roy had slept with her, thus putting pressure on their relationship; 2) took the baby back (without repaying the money) and has used the child non-stop to manipulate Steve, Ken, Deirdre, and Blanche -- for a start. She set up a domestic abuse alibi, then murdered Charlie Stubbs, was found guilty, but is back out due to a technicality. She accused Becky of pushing her and causing a miscarriage of twins, making the Street hate Becky. She mocks women who are barren, such as Karen and Becky. She crashes weddings, seduces boys (David & Ryan, who admittedly, were not averse to it), she has never shown a bit of gratitude for anything, including a kidney transplant, which would have come from Samir, had he not died first. And now she is teaching Amy to be cruel and spiteful, as Brian said Amy taunted Dev's daughter about Sunita's death. |
I haven't been able to see how Dev is going to convince the cops that Sunita was not the arsonist, etc. I notice though that Karl has given a thinly veiled threat to Dev to quit looking into it, although he's not reading it that way, yet.
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| You're right Leah, Sally has always stood supportively by her daughters in spite of her own often times questionable behavior with men. I suppose some might say that she wasn't setting a very good example as a mother, but hey, no one's perfect LOL ;) |
| Rainbow - Not to worry, Emily will be back soon. |
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Oh dear, looks like I've upset you, Rainbow, just by saying I think Sally is a good mother. Here's why: 1) she may have had affairs, but this is Corrie and most of the characters have had affairs, I'm not thinking about her with men but with her daughters 2) she has stuck by her girls even though she didn't always agree with what they did, e.g. Sophie's religious bout (what happened to that, BTW?) and her gay relationships, Rosie's abandoning of her education in favour of modelling 3) even though she and Kevin have split up, she has remained civil with him and that's at least in part for the sake of the girls, though I also believe she still has some affection for him I wish all couples who split up would remain that civil. I remember one Monday in June when, as a supply teacher, I asked a kindergarten class how their fathers liked the Father's Day cards we made for them the previous Friday. It broke my heart when one little girl said, "My mom tore it up and threw it in the garbage." How cruel! |
| Mark, are you kidding when you said Nick Rowan was the most handsome man on TV? Surely you jest! |
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Thanks all for the editing help, I'll try it on this one.
Mea culpa on the Sally/Martin thing for mis- remembering. In my defense, there are several women who always are desperate for a man to 'complete' them and it seems they always go for a man who is in a committed relationship. Not to mention any names:-- {Audrey, Gail, Carla, etc.} Fiz used to, but now she and Tyrone are a voice of reason on the street. New Topic: I hope that the new producer/director team will declare amnesty for the actors the old guard had banished. I understand there was bad blood with the actors portraying Jim McDonald, Les Battersby and Martin Platt, which is why Martin never showed up to support his son David for the past decade, while David was going through all his troubles. Although they may have moved on, ("Martin" is a cheese producer now) it would be great to have them back for cameos, at least. Could you not see the drama with Glo/Karl/Stella is Les returned?! I'd also like Janice back on the street, and how about Spider. Hope Emily isn't being written out, where has she been.
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It was totally unrealistic for the police to come to see Dev at his house within the hour of him calling. The police service is much better in Weatherfield. I'm glad that the police remembered that Sunita was a drunken vandal and capable of setting the pub on fire. I feel Dev should let sleeping dogs lie down. He's upsetting Stella. I still don't like Paul. He has an arrogant air to him. Rob should have plotted to get rid of Michelle instead to gain more influence over Carla over time. I didn't agree with Carla blaming Tracy. It was Rob who came up with the idea. It's too bad we no longer have Ken to moan about Tracy losing her job again. I hope she goes back to working at the Donair shop and re seduces the drug addict (I forgot his name). |
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Heartbeat topic: Jeannie, my recollection is that it was, David's mother, then Claude Greengrass, then it was Vernon Scripts, and then it was aunt Peggy. David Stockwell is my favourite character. I'd vote Nick Rowan as the most handsome man on TV and I'm straight LOL. I liked Vernon Scripts the most, and aunt Peggy the least. Due to the TVO looping of the shows, I'm all mixed up but we first saw David when a gang were digging some sort of weisel hunting and he was all attached to one of the weisels, while his mother was in the hospital. He was really dumb back then but he became much smarter as time went on. Nancy several of us were astounded at the difference between aunt Peg and Mrs Foster. Totally amazing what a little make up and hairstyle can do. Haili thanks for that information. I won't be wasting more blank DVD's. I'll problably skip Heartbeat also. I don't get why they have to keep repeating the same things over and over and that they are all mixed up in their scheduling. Their Saturday night at the movies web page is so confusing as they stop posting airing dates. |
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Rainbow - the spacing and line width get fixed when I edit the Guestbook every week or so. There's no need to worry about either thing! However, it's simple to make your message go the whole page width - you just need to type br (for line break) between the pointy brackets <> or p (for paragraph break) between the same brackets. |
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Hi Rainbow, though I agree with you asessment of Sally, I don't think she tried to 'steal' Martin from Gail. They started seeing each other after the camping trip both families took with Roy & Hailey & Wayne. Martin had had at least 2 afairs by then, he and Gail where no longer together but where co-parenting. Sally was concerned how Gail would react but they did come to terms with each other and remained friends. As did Martin & Kevin after K had bashed him ofcourse. Just last night I was watching "Platt family album" on youtube so Martin's romances are fresh in my memory. Have saved the Barlow's for tonight - should be fun. Agree that Blanche was 'a royal pain in the neck'. |
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Jeannie, the actress who played Blanche Hunt was Maggie Jones. Regarding the coroner, Dr. Frank Mason, from Dalziel and Pascoe, I thought his eye injury looked real as it was swollen a bit shut and red. I'm thinking that he injured himself quite apart from the show and in order for them to acknowledge his bashed face, rather than just ignore it, they wrote a few bits of dialogue to cover it, but never did relate it to anything that happened in the show. I was interested to find that the actor, Joe Savino, who also plays Liam Coghlan in Ballykissangel is a singer, pianist and guitar player who performs professionally and has made recordings. A very interesting character, to be sure!
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I agree that Eileen is the best mother and also that Sally was good too until the Natalie affair; then she really changed and became cynical. I loved the scene where she dumped Natalie's cosmetics in the sink and turned on the tap! And let the cat out for good measure! Not much changed tonight and as usual the local police have no idea who really set the fire. They don't want to re-open the case since they conveniently have a dead perp. |
| I have to weigh in on Sally too. She was once a very good mother. That's one of the things I remember about her when the *gurls* were little. She was always very chirpy and happy looking after them and taking care of them. She always had a smile on her face. It all went pear shaped when Kevin had the affair with Natalie while she was away looking after her mom. After that Sally was bitter and she changed from that point on. Not that I'm making excuses for her lol. Sally did become very shallow and focused on bettering herself but she did it by sleeping her way to the top so to speak! I think she loves the girls but she hasn't been the best mom in the world in recent years. I think after the Kevin/Natalie affair she decided she wanted to look out for number one more than anything else. |
| Rainbow and Gayle: I'm another who does not think Sally is THE best Mother on the Street. For me it's Eileen. She's not perfect, but she's about as perfect a Mom as you can get!LOL |
| Rainbow (love your name!) I so agree with your comments regarding Sally. I remembered being sickened by the storyline when she was getting it on with her boss at the car dealership - during working hours she just went in his office locked the door and...nauseating. Sally is a social climber no ifs, and's or but's about it. She would sleep with Rob in a heartbeat if she thought she would get some money out of it. |
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Thanks Joanne. So, we never did find out what happened to that eye.? I have to admit I didn't stick with it till the end Gail & vixen13, excellent posts. I believe even the actress who played Blanche (Maggie Smith?)said in an interview that she was a most unlikeable character. And yes, Ken deserves a medal for putting up with her. |
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DOUBLE YIKES!! Sorry to put you all through this but I'm trying to help Rainbow Wordsmith and I'm sabotaging my messages. In order to get the message to stretch out type SHIFT , for the < sign; p in the middle and end with SHIFT . which is >. When I put all three together they disappear in the message. Hope you're able to decipher this coded message, RW!
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YIKES!! My last message was double spaced and I think it might have had something to do with my putting in the body of the message. Normally it's only single spaced. We'll see this time.
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Rainbow Wordsmith, to make your message go from one side of the screen to another, type in the three keystrokes after the message and it will stretch out.
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--- HELP WANTED --- my messages are not showing up in the Guestbook how I type them -- single spaced. Also would like to know how to make them edge to edge, and not only using the left-hand side of the page. |
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Cannot stay silent...SALLY for best mother?! Please. She left Kevin and moved her young children in with a liar, thief and abuser. This was when she colluded with one of Mike Baldwin's managers to steal MB's customers and stock and set up a rival company. She has constantly slept with her male bosses, two of which were Frank Foster,who she betrayed Underworld for; the owner of Auto dealership, who was the father of Rosie's schoolmate, to name but a few. She -- like Deirdre -- excuses her (elder) daughter's bad behaviour, especially when it is to her own advantage. The real reason she hated John Stape was because he rejected her advances. She delighted when Rosie got the money from Stape, and wanted to benefit from it ( eg- driving the convertible). She has always favoured Rosie over Sophie. Sophie had a crush on her teacher, so Rosie seduced him. (And don't get me started on the "kidnapping of Rosie"...does anyone remember the old story "The Ransom of Red Chief"? 'Nuf said. Sally also tried to 'steal' Martin away from Gail, when they were a couple. Sally never sees anything she does as wrong, but constantly calls out others, notably Kevin, who has affairs because he falls in love, rather than Sally's mercenary actions. This is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many more examples if I take the time to think, but I just had to respond quickly to SALLY being labelled a good mother. |
| Haili, good point. Isn't it interesting how quickly we have all forgotten dear old Kirstie? LOL |
| I also thought Blanche was cruel to Deirdre, her own daughter. She rarely had a kind word for her and when she did, there was always some kind of backhanded insult or criticism in it! It was supposed to be comical but I agree, she was a mean lady most of the time. Very self centred and cruel most of the time but we were supposed to find humour in it. She was damned lucky that Ken put up with her as he did because she never missed a chance to tell anyone who would listen about all of Ken's faults! |
| We all forgot Kirsty as a bad mom! She left the baby with Tyrone most of the time, yelled at her when she cried, abused Tyrone and fought with him in front of Ruby. |
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Leah, don't forget that Deirdre's mother, Blanche, was very caustic and combative. She rarely had a good word for anyone, including her daughter and I'm sure she influenced the way Deirdre raised Tracey. Altho' some saw Blanche's comments as wry humour, I thought they bordered on bullying and could rob others of their sense of worth. She took pleasure in putting others down.
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Worst mother--if you go by results it's Deirdre. You can see why Tracy turned out the way she did. No matter how bad Tracy gets all Deirdre ever does is purse her lips and say, "Oh Tracy." I would have said Cilla and Jackie as well, but they came from rough environments themselves. Deirdre was never disadvantaged and therefore has no excuse. Best mother--Sally. She goes overboard at times but her girls were always first with her. |
| Jeannie, "Liam" was the doctor/pathologist on "Dalziel and Pascoe". Dalziel called him "Cyclops" in one scene, because he'd got an injured eye. "Walked into a door" was the excuse, but there was no real explanation. |
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kls, I was very confused, too, when I realized I had taped Born and Bred as well as Dalziel & Pascoe when I was expecting Monarch of the Glen and Waking the Dead. You mentioned quite a few of the familiar faces, but I also recognized Lee Boardman who had the role of Sgt. Brian Skinner. We all remember Boardman as Jez Quigley, the baddest of the bad on Coronation Street. Also PS Jenny Ettrick was played by Phyllis Logan, who was Mrs. Hughes on Downton Abbey. I knew the voice and couldn't immediately place her because she looked so different in D & P than she did on Downton Abbey. Also David Soul from Starsky and Hutch fame played Gus D'Amato. Quite the crew! Now I'm wondering what we'll see next Sunday!
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Off Topic Knowledge Network kinda messed up my viewing last night - no Monarch of the Glen, but Born and Bred which was fine because I like James Bolem. Then came Dazliel and Pascoe and there was Charles Lawson (Jim McDonald) with the strange name of Charlie Stubbs, and Katy Cavenaugh who goes by Spike in that series. Had never seen that episode so was pleased with it although the ending with two old, overweight coppers fighting was a tad weird. |
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I got an answer to my Heartbeat email and they are re-running seasons 4 and 5 this summer, then season 6 in the fall. They said that scheduling problems caused the mixup. I have no idea what that means but won't likely watch again until next fall. Roy, Hailey, Jack, Vera and Rita did a lot to help foster kids and their good influence helped Ty, Fizz, Ches. etc. to turn out well and is one of the reasons I like this show. Most of the moms on the show are pretty good except for Jackie Dobbs and Cilla. Claire and Katy neglected their kids but they had clinical depression at the time. Some moms are too smothering, controlling or gullible but they mean well eg. Gail, Anna, Dierdre (as in O Tracy love!). Leanne is good with Simon and we can assume Maria is good with little Liam. |
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Joanne, I just saw your post. Thanks for confirming the Charlie sighting. I wasn't sure about that one. And yes, Brian was there too. I'd forgotten about him. Was Julie the female cop from D &P's group? I missed Liam entirely. Which one was he? Yes, they certainly do get around! |
| Vixen 13: I agree with you re: the worst Moms', my immediate thoughts went to Cilla and Jackie. My choice for best Mom would go to Eileen, a single Mom,who is always there for her kids and supports them in whatever they do and they are always made welcome whenever they come back home. |
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Thank you Gail and Nancy for answering my Heartbeat question. I appreciate it very much. I will look forward to seeing Frank's mother in a different role. I have a feeling she'll do a very good job! Saw Alison (Kevin's ex, mother of Jake) on Born and Bred last night and Jim MacDonald on Dalziel and Pascoe. Both on Knowledge. |
| Vixen 13 - my thoughts exactly about how the children of those 2 turned out - all nice nurturing people... |
| Jeannie, yes that was "Charlie Sykes" on "Midsomer Murders". Other Corrie faces appearing on either "PBS or "Knowledge" this weekend were "Brian" on "Born and Bred", "Julie" and "Jim McDonald" on "Dalziel and Pascoe" and "Liam" from "Ballykissangel". They do get around, don't they? :-) |
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I made a list of all the Coronation Street mothers that I knew and PHEW! there are a lot of them. I'm on board with you, Sharon, that Cilla and Jackie are two of the worst, and I'd add Anne Foster, Frank's mom, who was pure evil, altho' she wasn't on the street for as long as the other two. I find it interesting that Cilla and Jackie's children, Fiz, Chesney and Tyrone, seem to be very good parents, even tho' they did not have the nurturing from their moms that usually produces good parents. It's hard to decide who's the best because there are a lot of choices.
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| Re Ryan not taking an interest in Katy's son--why would he? He's an opportunistic little git who only wants Katy as she is "eye candy" when he's out on the town. She's the one who has pushed herself and her son on Ryan who is simply not mature enough to form any kind of bond with a small child. |
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I have just googled Scripps, and it shows that I was getting mixed up with Vernon Scripps and Bernie Scripps. All sorted now. |
| Nancy from Ontario: I was thinking that Vernon Scripps was the garage owner/undertaker; wasn't he a Scripps as well? I'm really getting mixed up. lol |
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Cilla Battersby-Brown and Jackie Dobbs come to mind first for worst mothers on the street. Rita was a wonderful stepmother and I think that Judy Mallet was a good Mom too. I don't know why I am having a hard time with this simple question LOL |
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I agree that Tyrone is the best dad. Close runners up would be Dev, Lloyd, Kevin, David. The worst dad is definitely Terry, but if we look at current characters on the street, I would have to choose Peter. |
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Don't forget that David Lonsdale, who played David Stockwell on Heartbeat, was also cast as Kristie Soames father, Edwin, on Coronation Street. Apparently he also played Peter Barlow on the street in 1986 and had a minor role as a lawyer in 2011. Obviously, TPTB like the actor and plug him in where needed.
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It was interesting to read everyone's replies to best/worst Dad...now who do you think is the best/worst Mom? I'm going to have to give that one some thought... |
| Jeannie, Vernon fills that role for a while when Claude leaves and then Vernon also leaves. David's Aunt Peggy (the actress who played Anne Foster, Frank's mother on Corrie!) was the last in the lovable scalliwag role on Heartbeat. She was the best of them all in my opinion! David stays on in his usual role as unwilling participant in Peggy's projects! |
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Ann and Hey Jude, thank you for responding to my cedar question. I'm going to try the electrician's tape first and if that doesn't work, I'll have to go with amputation. Thoroughly enjoyed the first episode of Lewis, Series VI on Masterpiece Theatre. I've enjoyed the show since it was Morse and have appreciated the new episodes. Count me in the number who feel that repeats of Heartbeat have been overdone. I loved watching Nick Berry and thought the 60s music was paired up with the action so well, but when I can say the dialogue along with the characters on the TV, it's time to switch the channel!
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"Onslow" was on Keeping Up Appearances. He played Hycinth Buckets' lazy brother-in-law! How could anyone forget that?!LOL OMG that show was sooo funny!LOL I don't think Ryan will be sticking around to be much of a "Dad" to Joseph either! He's going to get sick and tired of the wee guy getting in the way and if Katy makes Joseph a priority, like she says she should, Ryan will get tired of that very quickly. |
| That should be Katy. The Onslow show was Keeping Up Appearances. |
| It seems to me that Ryan has little or no interest in Kay and her son and she doesn't see it. Makes her a real looser as she "leaves" Chesney for a guy like Ryan. Rob is another looser. He has the support of Carla who is in a position to do big things for him and instead finds himself unemployed with Tracy and a thief. Not much to say about Karl except to be watching when the ballon goes up. |
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Janice: The person who played Vernon Scripps also played Eddie Yates on Corrie and Onslow on another program who's name eludes me at the moment. Actor's name, the late Geoffrey Hughes. |
| For once we all agreed on something: Terry is the worst dad! I don't think Ryan has had much of a chance to get interested in Joseph but it was nice to see Chesney offering to take him and glad of the chance to spend time with him. It wouldn't surprise me if he ends up getting custody. Single dads are a theme lately: Dev., Kevin, Owen, Tyrone. |
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Even before mentioned I was thinking of Tyrone also as the best Dad, at least in effort and heart to do so. I agree Terry Duckworth is the worst. I don't think much of Ryan's lack of interest in Katy's son so far .
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| Vernon Scripps takes over from Claude Jeremiah. When he leaves, Peggy Armstrong (David's aunt) takes over from him. I liked both Peggy and Claude better than Vernon. Peggy Armstrong is played by the actress who played Anne, Frank Foster's mum on Corrie. The difference between the two characters is astounding. |
| Mark, I remember David (Heartbeat) but can't remember how he fit into the scheme of things. I think Claude Greengrass leaves but does someone else kind of take over his role? Or do Vernon and David fill the lovable scalliwags roles without any help? It's been about ten years since I used to watch it and there's lots I've forgotten. |
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Best Corrie Dad would be David Platt. TVO should have recorded Heartbeat and then played it back in the right order. That way they wouldn't have to keep asking for money to buy new copies of the show. Bad planning! I liked Vernon Scripts a lot and would like to see him and David do all their shenanigans again. That was a riot. Selby I watch Time Team also. It's amazing how they can find a whole city buried in a farmer's field, just a few feet under. I don't want the old characters to come back. I would exceptionate Sarah Platt and Candice and Sci-Anne and Mr and Mrs Hoyle and Grahams but no one else allowed back. |
| Vixen: I had a similar problem with one of my cedars, and I did eventually have to cut it off - by the next summer, it had filled in enough that you could barely tell what happened. Also, my former neighbours had a similar problem with a small tree. It looked like a miniature weeping birch, if there is such a thing. They used the electricians tape (I think it's black), to hold up the branch and it did work. |
| Right, Terry Duckworth has to be the worst of all Corrie dads. Not recognizing your own son, Paul in one case and I don't think he ever acknowleged Tricia son Bard? as his. Hard to beat that in the bad dad department. |
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Totally off tropics, but not in the tropics Shelagh is such a nice person. She probably said, oh what the heck I'll help out you guys too. :) Seriously, she's one of my favourite CBC radio persons and it's nice to see her turn up for fundraising on Knowledge. Speaking of Knowledge. Was that the actor who plays Charlie Sykes on Midsommer Murders last night? (the postman?) And, is Michael Hebden (Norris Cole) going to be in Born and Bred tonight? I just got a glimpse in a preview and it sure looked like him. |
| Hey Jude: KCTS is Seattle PBS (Ch. 23 Telus and 27 Shaw) and Knowledge is Ch. 5 for both. As long as you can find what you want, you're OK! That's odd about Shelagh Rogers though! |
| VIXEN:- My advice would be to cut off the branch, the rest of the cedar will soon fill in the space. |
| I've been looking at the lists of departing and returning characters. I see Liz McDonald and Todd Grimshaw are returning, but also thought I'd heard somewhere that Toyah might be coming back? Does anyone know? |
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A fairly big branch on one of my large cedar trees which is part of a hedge has been snow-damaged and broken tho' not completely through. It's still hanging on to the tree. I don't want to cut it off as it will leave a huge hole in the hedge. I went online for a solution and found information that either first aid tape or plastic electrician's tape would work. Have any of you had a similar paroblem? Would you please share your solutions with me? I'd appreciate it.
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| I have to agree that Jack was an awesome Dad to Tyrone and it was very realistic, because he wasn't a very good dad to Terry. He often commented that he made mistakes with Terry and Vera always reminded him of it. Jack wasn't a very good example to Terry, but he was never as evil and capable of the kind of things that Terry was. But I think Jack realized that he could have been a better Dad and he got a second chance with Tyrone and he more than made up for the mistakes he made with Terry. |
| I agree, Terry D. for worst dad. It isn't just that he's a thieving, conniving SOB, he also has trouble recognizing his kids when he sees them. Best dads, Tyrone and Dev. David is very good with Max and Jack Duckworth was a wonderful substitute dad to Tyrone. Happy Father's Day to any of you who are fathers. |
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For me: Best Dad: Tyrone Dobbs Worst Dad: Terry Duckworth |
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No contest for worst dad - Terry of course! Steve's a good dad also Ashley, Tyrone, Kevin. Ken tried but we don't always succeed with kids. Peter has to be one of the worst because of his drinking, almost burning the flat down with Simon in it, then trusting Carla to stay sober and pick up Simon. I wouldn't want Gary for a dad, or Anna for a grandma; much too smothering and pesky. Steve Paiken is a good interviewer but maybe it's his topics or the format I find boring. I watched the show all the time when Paula was on and she added a bit of variety. I did e-mail TVO to say how much I enjoy the British series and would like to see Heartbeat in sequence and then switch to something else. |
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Plaid Cat, regarding your survey: I agree with vixen13 and vote for Tyrone as the best dad. And with Sharon for worst dad - gotta be Terry D. |
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Plaid Cat, regarding your survey: I agree with vixen13 and vote for Tyrone as the best dad. And with Sharon for worst dad - gotta be Terry D. |
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I think Tyrone has been the very best dad. He put up with abuse from Kirstie so that he could keep Ruby safe from her, he gave up his job at the garage and stayed home to care for Ruby, and he always has her best interest at heart. It's all about Ruby! He was a great dad to Little Jack until Kevin got the DNA results. Most of the other dads on the street have moments when they are great dads, but they always seem to counter that with negative behaviour. Tyrone has not displayed any bad parenting that I can remember.
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OFF TOPIC (WAY OFF!) If (and that's a big IF) Corrie were an American soap, I think the writers would have a field day with the Karl/Dev intrigue about Sunita. Dev would rustle up a few choice friends and have a seance in the Rovers cellar and conjure up the poor lass, and as Sunita's ghost hovers around each person at the table, she stops just behind Karl and points her long now over-grown fingernails right at Karl's head and screeches out his name as the criminal he is. Oh I wish the Corrie producers were lurking here in spirit. |
| *Happy Father's Day‼* to our GB Dad's ☺! |
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Pearl and Plaid Cat re: best/worst Dads... Worst Dad has to be Terry Duckworth...I know he is not on the show presently but it wasn't too long ago that he was and his recent appearance is still being felt by Tommy. He is for all intents and purposes responsible for the whole surrogacy storyline after all. Best Dad for me would have been Ashley Peacock and/or Jack Duckworth (for the way he treated Tyrone), but in present storylines I would have to go with Lloyd. He is a good listener and always a shoulder to cry on with good advice. Plus, I just like Lloyd! |
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Thank you Pearl from B.C. I am really enjoying reading what everyone thinks of the show. I have been watching for many years. Nice to feel welcome. Have a great day. |
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Hi vixen13, thanks for the info on PBS. I'd love to watch it but I don't get it with the satellite package I have now.Years ago I used to watch Heartbeat on Knowledge, TVO and SCN. (Over saturation? Maybe.) But I had never seen the episode that aired last night on Knowledge. That naughty Oscar! :) |
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The baby is born, a little scrap of a boy. Izzy gets to be at the birth but Gary doesn't. Gary is really being treated like a pariah by everyone except his mother. Tommy is really there for Tina and takes no flack off anyone, least of all Gary. Izzy and Tina get to see the wee baby but Gary doesn't and he and Izzy shout at each other in the hallway. It was only a pass! It was, too, come on, overrreact much? Baby is no bigger than a scrap. I wonder why they haven't had Fiz offer support. Hope was even more premature when she was born. Tina is trying to help and convince Izzy to talk to Gary. The hospital want Tina's milk for the baby. Why not? It's not as if she'll be nursing the baby directly. Izzy is right to be angry with Gary but she's still over reacting. Gary thinks an I'm Sorry can switch it off like a light, and that's not going to happen either. Still, she should let Gary see the baby and she's finished with him. That's going to make Tina think twice. It means the baby is being raised in a single parent family. Tommy is right by her side, too. They're bound to be back together in no time. We've seen a soft side of Owen too, for a change. Tina's blood pressure must be mad high for them to be keeping her in this long. Gary isn't helping coming to her begging her to intervene with Izzy so he can see his son. I don't think it's fair, myself and Tina doesn't either so she let him see the baby. She's the legal mother at the moment anyway and whoah, did she ever pull rank on Izzy and Gary. Until they sort themselves out, she's not letting them near the baby! Tina is determined to stick up for the baby because his parents are too involved in their own stuff. Tommy is taking advantage of Tina seeming to have let him back in her life again, suggesting a holiday together. She's taking him back, we knew that was coming. Izzy is still over reacting and has no intention of getting back with Gary. I don't blame her for being angry with him, he deserves to have to grovel. The pub is open, and the hotbed of gossip is back where it belongs. My gosh it's good to see things back to normal! The main topic of conversation is the surrogacy and the situation between Gary and Tina, causing all sorts of speculation, specially on Norris' part to the point where a very drunk Sally calls him a nasty little bald elf. It was a joy to be seen! Dev, meanwhile, managed to stay a little while but couldn't stomach it for long in the end. Stella wanted to go round and see if he was ok but Karl when instead. Bad idea. Dev accused Karl of being the reason it all happened. It looked like Karl nearly messed his shorts until Dev pointed out that if there had been no affair, Sunita would have been alive. He's more right than he knows, isn't he? He did apologize but it really hit Karl hard. Good! Stella really needs to get out of Dev's business because it's none of hers. She just doesn't stop! Anyone got the horrifying feeling that when all this about Karl comes out, she's going to end up in Dev's bed? oh Please no! Stella said Dev didn't want to leave the kids with Mary but he does that every day after school doesn't he? Karl tried everything he could to get out of the meal with Dev but Stella would not be persuaded. Karl starts the night off with plain water. You'd think he'd rather get legless under the circumstances. Meanwhile, the kids have made a lovely scrapbook for Dev and insist that their mother would never want to kill anyone. And it doesn't make sense to Dev either. Dev is more and more convinced that Sunita is innocent and assures the kids who are getting into more and more trouble at school that their mother is as innocent as they say. He's now going to try to convince the police to repopen the case, which you know is Karl's worst nightmare! Steve was nearly bald a couple of days ago. Now he's got a few weeks' growth. Michelle obviously didn't get the clearance from Ryan about Katy moving in like he told her and Ryan looks like a deer caught in the headlights. Chesney had a temper tantrum over it too. Just what Sinead needs to hear. Chesney apologizes to Sinead and well he should. I think Katy *should* be offering to cook and do all sorts around the house as a thank you. Good on her. Ryan is too interested in clubbing and luring Katy out, meaning she's got to find a babysitter yet again. Time to suck up to Dad again, i see. Ryan and Katy are most definitely going to go the distance and Michelle can see it already. Ryan didn't want a kid with Tracy and he's not going to want the responsibility for Joseph either. Carla's eagle eye is on Rob and he knows it. She's caught Rob and Tracy in the scam. Why wouldn't Carla's number have come up on Tracy's phone if not the name of the company? Carla really feels betrayed now. And from the sounds of it, Rob has a long history of ripping Carla off and only being sorry when he got caught. There's too much history and she's not going to send him to jail but she's going to getback at him and how. Peter never did have any illusions about Tracy and I'm very glad to hear him say she really did get away with murder. Tracy is determined to make an enemy out of Carla but I think she's met her match there. I don't know why Carla didn't sack her there and then but she had other plans. Rob might have though he was controlling the scam but now that Tracy has her claws into it, she is pushing things to the limit. Carla's really upset that Rob could be doing this to her. She may think Tracy's running the show now but Rob put it in motion in the first place. Don't make any excuses for him, Carla, even if he does seem to be feeling a bit guilty about it. Carla gave Rob a scare over turning him in but Rob plays the card that he saved Underworld when it was floundering and throws her past at her. That hurts but she sacked him and Tracy anyway at least. Finally. He's even willing to sacrifice Tracy if he goes down so you know she'll put on her best performance. Peter's all for sending him down but Carla just wants rid of him and wants her 30% share back, for as much as he paid for it. Nothing. As much as he hurt Carla, her words hurt him just as much. Nobody's words can sting like family's can. They know where all the buttons are and where all the skeletons are. Deirdre had Rob's number too. So what does Rob do now? More revenge? Will Tracy push him into something really fatal? No, he plans on starting up a rival business, with Tracy's support. Good luck with that. Meanwhile the pissing contest between Rob and Peter continues when Rob tries to get back wages. Peter decides he's taking all but 100 quid for damages, this, that, and the other and Rob bets the last of it on a horse. He is smug when it wins but Peter gets to lord it over him when the horse is then disqualified. I win. Sally has decided to join a dating website. Sally's getting some responses from the dating site though most of them don't seem to be ideal in Sophie's eyes and she's the one that keeps putting a damper on things even though she was the one encouraging Sally to it.She's got the right idea, though, out for a bit of fun. Sally's having a clothes crisis. She thinks she's bland and beige. Well, she is a bit conservative, I suppose. I think this would be a good storyline if they follow it through a few dates, both good and bad. Eileen seems to be having trouble sleeping when Paul's working nights. Sean has noticed but she covers when Paul's around. You might know she's not going to cope as well with his job no matter what she pretends. Sean and Marcus are invited to a wedding to see some old friends, partners invited too which makes Marcus look a bit worried and Sean thinking that it should be an interesting night. Lines of the week: Gloria "I've worked hard for this" Eva "Yeah, you've changed your outfit twice" Kirk "If I talked about women the way you talk about men, you'd belt me" (he's right too) Sally "You know what, Norris? You're a silly little man. You're a nasty little elf, a nasty little bald elf." Steve "It's like Lady Gaga's movin in!" Peter "I'm cheap, reliable and I'm very low maintenance" Sophie to Sally "There's plenty more fish in the sea" Sally "But the bait's not what it was" Tracy "Cool is one thing. Cold Feet is another" Carla to Rob "You're not my brother. Just some loser I grew up with" (Ouch) Kirk: "Sexism has no place in Delivery and distribution" Gloria "Some things and some people are best left forgotten" (You wouldn't say that if it was your mother/partner) Rob to Peter "You think you're the big man" Peter "No, I think I'm the better man, and that's something coming from a bloke like me" |
| I agree Nancy that Paikin is an excellent broadcast journalist/interviewer, whatever you want to call him. He was a fantastic moderator too in recent election debates. I also did like Paula Todd but different strokes for different folks. We don't all like the same things, fortunately! |
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Sorry, Jeannie, I neglected to say that the Doc Martin episode I referred to in my previous post is airing tonight, Sunday, on PBS.
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Hi Gail, Must confess I didn't even notice the man with Paul was black only that they did a back slapped hug on parting so I took him to be a co-worker and friend. MAYBE SPOILER Since Paul is due to be leaving the show he will get a storyline to provide a reason - besides Eileen's smothering. Welcome to the guestbook Betty from Newmarket. There was a Betty who posted on here years ago, if you are the same welcome back. Interesting ? Plaid Cat, lets see Best father - currently Lloyd but over time I'd say Kevin Worst father - currently Steve; from the past Les although he was or tried to be a good 'uncle' to Chesney. Hope others will give their opinions. |
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Really? I loathed Paula Todd and was happy when she left. I think Paikin does a fantastic job on his own. _Heartbeat_ and _Doc Martin_ are once-through shows for me - I don't want to see repeats. How about _Kingdom_ or _Gently_ or something silly like _Gavin and Stacey_ or _The IT Crowd_? I'd watch repeats of _Wycliffe_ happily - it's been years and it was great. |
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Jeannie, re: your June 15th, 19:59 GB posting, KSPS out of Spokane which is PBS, is airing a 2004 episode of Doc Martin, "The Portwenn Effect" at 6:00 p.m. PDT. I'm not sure how that translates to your time zone, but I hope you're able to view it.
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| Michelle did run Underworld with Rob while Carla was away Daphne. At least Michelle was there to keep her eye on Rob. Carla was quite willing to disappear for months and leave her business in Rob's hands so she should blame herself for leaving the fox in charge of the hen house but I guess she felt if you can't trust your own brother who can you trust? |
| I agree with you Daphne, Carla gave him a job and he did hold the plant together, with Michelle's help, when Carla was off on her walk-about with Peter. but it all comes down to not being able to trust the guy. Happy Father's Day to all our male posters on this site and even if your not a biological Dad, I am sure your a fabulous Step-Dad or Uncle. Just a thought... on Corrie who is the best dad and the worst dad.? |
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To hark back to Rob and Carla. Didn't Michelle also hold the fort with Rob when Carla was off on her travels. Rob acts as if he alone is entitled to reimbursement. I'm sure he must have paid himself while she was gone and she gave him a job when he was unemployable. I fail to see why he feels she owes him. He got 30% of the business while Michelle got nothing. I can see why Carla wants shot of Rob and keeps Michelle. You can't reward someone who steals from you. I think Jake is a dreadful name for a baby. However. I was thankful to see Izzy and Gary getting along. I hope Izzy means it and is not biding her time until she has the baby safe in her keeping. |
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haili from ont: I noticed a great drop off when Paula Todd left. She added a little optimism to Pakin. I'd like to have Heartbeat replayed from beginning to end--all almost 20 years. But it won't happen. I think TVO maybe past its sell date. Except to Time Team I don't think there is much on offer. |
| Heartbeat had 18 seasons and was on from 1992 until 2010. I don't think I'd like to see them air the entire series again LOL There were several new cops over the years but I think my favourite was Nick Rowan and next to Nick, I liked the last one, Joe Mason. One of the things that hooked me in the beginning was all the great music they played in the early seasons. They didn't focus on it as much as the series went on, but the 60's music was always a part of Heartbeat. I've heard that British series are very expensive and TVO is always calling us and asking us to give them more money on top of what we've already given. I get a bit fed up with that! |
| Selby and Hey Jude: I'll be dropping TVO too and don't watch nearly as much as I used to but it's a good point that we should let them know so I'll try to do that. I don't want them to start Heartbeat from the beginning but they should finish where they left off. I used to watch Steve Paiken when Paula Todd was on with him but now he's mostly just boring. |
| Selby: You've got to let them know though. It may not change even if you voice your opinion, but for sure nothing with happen if you don't! |
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Haili: I agree that the Maria-Markus theme adds little or nothing to the show and since Maria has always been a minor but pleasant member of the Street that is a shame. I would like TVO to replay Heartbeat from the beginning to the end. Whatever they think they are doing now isn't getting me to watch like I once did. Also TVO seems to have dropped the UK element from its programming and if they keep it up I'll drop them. |
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| Janice: Don't worry! I just know I've seen Sheila Rogers talk on Channel 23 (KCTS) and called it the Knowledge Network of British Columbia. Not going to worry as long as they still carry Doc Martin!LOL |
| Back on June 15 I posted that I watched Heartbeat on PBS. It should have been Knowledge Network on channel 12 here in the West Kooteny. Hope I did not get anyone mixed up. |
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I haven't missed Marcus and Maria and IMO they aren't very believable as a couple. I haven't cared much for Marcus since he dumped Sean so he could have a kid. All this yearning for babies by the Corrie men doesn't ring true to me. Sean already has a son that he gets to see once in awhile when Violet needs a sitter and Marcus was like an uncle to Maria's son. I wonder if Maria will have a baby for him. I would like to see TVO continue where it left off with Heartbeat a couple of weeks ago with Nick as a single parent; then drop the series and get something else when it ends. TVO hasn't been nearly as good in the past few years. They used to run a lot of Brit. mysteries and other good mini series but we don't get much of that any more. I'd love to see Doc. Martin when they start the new season on PBS. |
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| Pearl,I was talking about the black man who was with Paul. I think he was a fireman too. Not sure what his purpose is but I did read that Paul gets himself into trouble for making some sort of racist remark and I thought maybe it had to do with that man, not the friend of Sean and Marcus's. I guess we'll find out soon. |
| George: uh oh, now I'm confused. I watch Doc Martin on KCTS, which is ch. 23 on my Telus Optik guide. Is that not the Knowledge Network? |
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Hi Mark, I thought the old friend of Sean & Marcus (Ben was his name?) who is having his wedding reception at the Bistro and invited them & their partners to come, was brought on the show to stir up memories for Marcus and doubts for Maria. Gail says it has more to do with Paul so I may be way off. We have seen very little of M&M lately so high time for something to happen with them. The great thing about Sally's online dating venture is that she will be meeting someone (or many someones) from OFF the street. New faces, if even for a short time will be a breath of fresh air. |
| Jeannie and Hey Jude: Doc Martin was on PBS Seattle (Ballykissangel was on Knowledge at the same time). PBS is Ch. 23 on Telus and Knowledge is Ch. 5. |
| Annette: Tina's last name is McIntyre |
| Personally I wish TVO would get rid of both Heartbeat and Doc Martin, both shows which I have enjoyed over and over, time for a new series IMO. Maybe Waterloo Road. |
| Thanks Leah for your message. I come on this site often but don't always have a comment to make and I don't want to waste people's time by restating something that someone else has posted, even though I often agree with them. |
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Thanks Hey Jude. I still can't figure out though, why the schedule would vary from province to province. Hmmm... I guess the thing to do is get in touch with the network and ask them. Anyway, thanks again for confirming what I thought you had said. |
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Tracy doesn't wear clothes that show off her boobs or skin tight pants, or short skirts. her clothes are plain usually..which is suitable for a gal her age with no (steady) job. What is Tina's last name? (i've forgotten) Mark..I didn't watch the new medical show on TVO either, like Haili I lost interest when all the new characters joined. For a while I watched it for Doc McSteamy. :) If you like people figuring things out w/o fancy machines, you must LOVE Murdock Mysteries. my husband likes that show. A Perfect Sunshiney day in The Kawarthas! |
| Gail: LOL! Well I gotta say I don't care for Tracy's wardrobe either. There's nothing special in the way she dresses, but I suppose at least her clothes are clean, I just wish she'd wash her hair once in a while! |
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Jeannie: Yes I get the Knowledge Network out here, and yes, Doc Martin came on at 8:00. I think I saw what was the very tail-end of the Lyons Gate Bridge special, because it had an older couple on, and they were skiing, so am thinking that was just a filler till Doc Martin (at least I think it was one BEFORE Doc and not after!LOL). My memory some days ... it aint' what it used to be. Knowledge Network comes on here on Channel 23 incase you're wondering. OMG guys, you are all crackin' me up!! I love the names you have picked for baby Windass. Man, if I were Izzy, I'd def go with ARMSTRONG!LOL |
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Leah, Norris has been showing lots of his busybody side of late, but he does have a kinder, gentler side which I think we last saw in his concern and protectiveness towards Rita the night of the fire. I for one am going to keep on watching the Karl storyline. Don't want to miss the night you run into the Rovers screaming, "Karl started the bloody fire!" Grin. I have mixed feelings, I guess, on how this storyline is stretching out. Some days I agree with you, let's get it over with and others I rather enjoy seeing evil Karl worry and sweat. Heh. Heh. Heh. Off topic for Hey Jude and anyone else who watches the Knowledge network: Do you get Doc Martin on Friday night and at what time? I thought someone had posted that you do? I live in Saskatchewan and last night Knowledge had a documentary on the Lions Gate Bridge at 8:00, Ballykissangel at nine and Miss Marple at ten. That would be seven, eight and nine BC time. No Doc Martin. Or do I have the wrong night? Or the wrong channel? |
| Jean from Niagara Falls, glad to hear from you. I was just thinking it's been awhile and hoping everything was all right. Chris, I like your alternate names for the baby. However, scary Mary has turned into quite a steady person for the Alahan twins. Now if they'd only turn Norris into something more than an interfering busy-body. If this plot with Karl drags on much longer I'm going to run into the Rovers screaming, "Karl started the bloody fire. We knew that on the first bloody night. Arrest him and move on to something else!!!!!!!" It's doing my head in. |
| I think the baby name should be Wudda....Wudda Windass sounds so appropriate don't you think? At least it would for for Gary. |
| Hummm... thanks Gail. |
| Mark, apparently Paul is going to be accused of being a racist and there will be lots of trouble as a result of an *innocent* remark he makes. Maybe that has something to do with the man with the darker complexion who was in Friday's episode. |
That's fine Gail. 
Haili Waldo has a nice ring to it also. 
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| OMG, Chris & Mark, the names are hilarious. I guess I missed the part where they agreed on the name, I just thought Tina had picked it. Rob just seems to have a resentment for Carla that makes him want to hurt her over and over. Even with him knowing that Carla is correct in punishing him for stealing the silk, he gets talked into more trouble by Tracy. I am looking forward to Dev clearing Sunita's name and watching Karl sweat.. |
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I like Waldo; it has a ring to it! Waldo Windass! But whose last name will the baby get? Izzy is still Armstrong or will it be Tina's last name? Or it could be Willy as in Willy be a Windass? I have to give the writers and producers credit lately since they've moved on from the Windass/Armstrong s. gang show and shown more interesting characters. I look forward to seeing how Dev. figures things out and catches Karl. I didn't watch the new hospital show on TVO as I get tired of them and gave up on Grey's Anatomy a couple of years ago when all the new characters came on. |
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Chris my pick is... Windsor (Windy) Windass
Gail now you've offended all the women who shop at Wallmart. And it's not just what she wears but the consistancy in her appearance. Kate Ford doesn't let herself go and she has poise. Poise matters. |
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Hi Haili: Naming their baby boy "Jake" just doesn't work for me either. Instead, I offer these name ideas for Izzie and Gary's consideration. ♦ Edsel (Eddy) Windass ♦ Weedon (Weedy) Windass ♦ Windsor (Windy) Windass ♦ Waldorf (Waldo) Windass (When the ickle fella is eventually kidnapped by someone like Scary Mary, we'll hear the shouts of “Where's Waldo?”.) ☺ Any other name suggestions for baby boy Windass? |
| Mark, I do agree with you about Rob. He's supposed to be such a smart guy but he acts like a common criminal. If he was as smart as all that, he would know that stealing from her is not the way to get what he wants from Carla. He should play nice and work with her, not against her! Then everyone could benefit and be happy and he could get what he wants, given to him willingly by Carla because he earned it. But then we wouldn't have all this conflict and drama and how much fun would THAT be? ;) |
| I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't think there's anything special about the way Tracy dresses. In fact, I think she usually wears very boring clothes. OK she wears some bright colours but usually the styles she wears are pretty ordinary and look like she bought them at Walmart or Marks and Sparks LOL Just my opinion of course. |
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Hi Jean, Yes I agree and I was disapointed in Rob stealing some silk rolls. He's regressing to when he was 16. He's a man now and should use his brains to get revenge on Carla like getting along so well with clients that when he has a chance, he can get contracts of his own. For grown mature men, the big fear is losing clients not stealing rolls of silk. That was so juvenile on Rob's part. I gotta love Tracy though. She's always dressed so nice. She's a woman with standards on her appearance. I'll have to remember to compliment Kate Ford next time I see her. I didn't know that Gail, that TVO has to buy new rights every year. I thought they just had to pop their old worn out VHS tapes of Heartbeat into their broadcasting machine. That would explain why we are in permanent loop mode. Annette I watched the start of that new medical show. I can't stand watching TV doctors. They're sooo smart and know it all when in real life they've misdiagnosed my problems so many times that I can't stand watching them on TV. But I loved watching London Hospital on TVO. Those doctors had to figure things out without all the fancy machines. |
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Plaid Cat: Gary and Izzy said they had 3 fave names to choose from, so they agreed to count, 1, 2, and said "Jake" at the same time. I personally don't care for it, I think because my former neighbours had a boxer named Jake!LOL Gail: Yes, the wedding that didn't happen! The whole town turned out and are sitting in the Church, and Doc and Louise both change their minds at the last minute, uggghhh!LOL |
| I didn't realize that PBS has Heartbeat in their schedule. I suspect that TVO hasn't bought the rights to show any Heartbeat series other than the early ones that they show. They obviously did at one time but I believe they have to buy them again and budgets being what they are, they probably haven't done so. I recall them saying that Heartbeat was very expensive when they were begging during fund raising time! LOL I think the name Jake is nice and it was the name of Kevin and Alison's baby who died. |
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What they did on TVO last night was air a new series named 'Hard Rock Medical' (i think that's what it was) for the first part that 'Heartbeat' should have been on..but I have seen that eppie they showed tooooo many times. I agree Gail "Doc Martin" would be fabulous to have on on Fridays...Mark you'd love it (if you haven't seen it yet). We had a cat named Jacob about 30 years ago, we called him 'Jake'. What a switch for Izzy & Gary, they weren't just getting along, they were actually smiling and shared some excitement. 2 days without (new) Corrie. |
| I wish TVO would run Heartbeat in sequence instead of backing up to old ones. It doesn't make sense and it seems that they just throw any old thing on to fill air time. Re. Carla, I'm wondering if she'll keep the insurance money and the silk and Rob will have that to blackmail her with. Carla doesn't mind bending the law when it suits her. I've never cared much for Michelle and the way she talks to the workers; both she and Carla can be arrogant and act superior to the others. Peter was nastier than necessary too. The coffee machine should have been under warranty and if Peter kept it he shouldn't charge Rob. All these people are as bad as each other IMO. |
| Plaidcat- Gary and Izzy both likeed and decided on the same name for the baby. Tina was merely repeating it, expressing her dislike for the name after Gary and Izzy had left the hospital room. |
| Mark it is true that Rob kept the factory running when Carlka ran away to sail the world and it was wrong of her to leave like that. It is also wrong the way she often bullies her staff but his stealing from her was also wrong and two wrongs don't make a right. AS we sll know, hooking up with Tracy was not his smartest move in life. I hope she gets her cummuppance soon. |
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-OFF TOPIC- Here in the British Columbia Interior we receive our PBS from Spokane. Apart from a couple of repeated episodes early on, Heartbeat has not been repeated since it restarted and now Nick and his family have left for Canada and Mike has taken over. A couple of years ago Shaw Cable decided to switch us over to receiving our PBS from Detroit, but so many of us threatened to quit Shaw Cable that they gave us back our Spokane feed. Being that PBS and Knowledge Network are my favourite channels since the 1980s, it was very hard to watch the Detroit feed which seemed to be completley different. Spokane is just below the Canadian border near us, Detroit is miles away. |
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Leah from GTA. Whales have been dancing on the floor of the Atlantic - that is where all the earthquakes in California have been coming from. lol.... Yet still no Terry D. !!! Were my ears playing tricks or did Tina name the baby Jake.? I do like the name Jake ( reminds me of Kevin & Allison's baby who passed away.) But... in my opinion, I really do think she overstepped her bounds doing that. |
| Oh that was a good episode Jude. The wedding that never was! I felt sorry for poor Louisa, always being let down by the doc. He can be such a prat! But I think they both decided to back out at the last minute didn't they? It's been a while since I saw that one. |
| Gail: I just finished watching Doc Martin. Doc and Louisa were supposed to get married - wow, what a show! I love it! |
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off tropics *** The Heartbeat writers have a short memory. Kate was alive, then she died and now she's alive again. Get it straight writers!!! We're not that dumb. and TVO's web site is all messed up. |
| I noticed that Heartbeat was on later tonight too when I checked the schedule but I opted to pass on it as I remember seeing that one. I agree, they should get a new series to replace it, or else move on in the series and not show the same old ones over and over but they probably don't have the rights to now. For a replacement series, I vote for Doc Martin from the first episode! It would be a great one to replace Heartbeat in the Friday night 9 PM timeslot. I should call them and suggest it since we are members of TVO. |
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Mark..it's on now. The TV guide was wrong too. It's another old one..before Kate is even preggers. I think It's time they put on another British show in it's place, we've seen the series over and over and over and over again. |
| Gail: I like Michelle too, but I have to admit, I get tired of the eye rolling after a while! :) I haven't seen tonights show yet, so I should keep my lip buttoned!LOL |
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It's Rob who kept the factory afloat while Carla was away on one of her run away stints. And she yelled at him for making plain underwear without understanding that they need income. That is the way Carla runs the factory, whenever there's a problem she just runs and let others pick up the pieces. So for once the writers are consistent with a character. She did the same to Rob when they were young. I couldn't believe how Sean is just allowed to stand and chat with the other machinists. It's certainly not the same productivity level as the clothing factories in China that I've seen on TV. |
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Jeannie: I like Brian too and thought he and Julie had some good scenes. With Ken away, we need another teacher for all those kids who keep getting into fights! I did read that the actor who plays Brian is leaving, which is too bad. There are others I'd rather see go away. I loved Sally's line about Kirk liking Tracy that it must be the Stockholm syndrome! I've never been a fan of Michelle's character and would have thought that Carla would have preferred to keep her brother on if it came to a choice. It should be interesting to see what revenge Rob and Tracy can come up with. |
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Haili, I agree, today's episode was lively. I liked the interaction on the factory floor and in the break room. We really need to see more of Kirk and Beth! And, it's good to see Fiz and Sally getting along so well. Gail, I like Michelle too, but I guess I didn't explain my position very well. What I meant was that given Carla's character- as a calculating businesswoman, if she had to let anyone go, it would make more sense for it to be Michelle. And, IMO putting Rob in that "distribution" job while not firing him outright, was daring him to take it or quit. Seeing Brian today reminded me of how good the actor who plays him is in that role. But, did I hear/read that he is leaving? |
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Good points on all sides regarding Michelle. I'll phone the CBC and tell them The Guestbookers decided to keep her for another year. If Janice was hired back after burning down the factory for smoking in the storage room under a no smoking sign then Rob and Tracy should get their jobs back. I'm surprised at how quickly Gary and Izzy made up. Sean lost some weight. I hope he's ok. OK for the makes no sense observation: One girl pushes another and Mr Pompous the Principal calls in the parents? That never happened when I was in school. The principle just gave us a beating in return or detention if we were lucky. Parents losing a half day to go to the school over a push? Who is he the police? And then he tells Dev to tell the kids the truth. It's none of Brian's business. |
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Tonight's episode was nice and lively and I got a few laughs at the factory gang. I'm glad Dev. is going to play detective and that Tina left the hospital but I agree with her in not liking the name "Jake." We're getting to see more of the other characters besides the s. gang and I'm all for that! And Stella wore a green dress! She broke away from basic beige. Now if she'd only wake up to the fact that Karl is a bad guy it would be great! I didn't see the problem with Carla, Rob and Michelle working together since they did it before when he first came back. He could be out working on commission with a low salary but Carla is not consistent in her attitude towards him. |
Saw the show today. Karl is starting to sweat, thinking Dev is going to try to get the police to reopen the case with new information ( phone texts from minutes before the fire), as well as other things. What is he going to do about it? OFF TOPIC Joanne, your family went through quite a lot with your son as a baby. So thankful everything worked out.
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| Oops, also meant to add, I can understand why she let Rob go. Her own brother stole from her so he can't be trusted! Should she reward him by keeping him on the payroll? Michelle has always been very loyal to Carla and Carla knows she can trust Michelle. Why should she let Michelle go anyway? There is no reason to fire her. |
| Just to add, I do like Michelle and always have liked her so of course, I'm going to defend her LOL ;) I think she's a sweet lady who is always kind to people, most of the time anyway. |
| I think Michelle does a lot of repetitive routine jobs for Carla, like ordering stock for example and maybe following up on things and bossing the factory girls around. Carla does the real work, such as procuring the contracts with customers and making the deals. Michelle is like an assistant. What she does probably doesn't require any business acumen to speak of. Of course she says *yes* to Carla. Carla is her boss! I think it's believable. I don't understand why everyone seems to think Michelle isn't capable. She's a lot smarter and more sensible than some of the other women on Corrie IMO. |
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Gayle & Mark, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I don't understand why Carla kept Michelle and let Rob go. I know, I know,there was the little matter of the stolen silk, but she had to know Rob would exact some sort of revenge. He really didn't deserve that demotion to the loading dock or whatever they call it. He did her bidding - went to help Peter. (And that was mainly a distraction on her part, wasn't it? Start a little brushfire over here so no one will fixate on how jealous she was of Peter's ex and how she bought her out so she wouldn't be around Petah! I do like Carla and I'm glad that we're getting some backstory on her and Rob. I guess that little factoid Rob dropped about her wanting always to please the Connors might explain why Michelle stays and Rob goes. On the other hand, they did, all three work in the office together, didn't they? I think we might see Rob back in the factory at some not too distant point but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. |
| Mark, I so agree with your comments regarding Michelle's "job" at the factory. All I have ever seen her do is answer the phone, walk around with a clipboard and roll her eyes at Carla when she talks about Tracey and Rob. Michelle has no business training that I am aware of but then again neither did Maria and we all know that turned out. I can't get over the nerve of Ryan moving his girlfriend and her child into his mother's tiny little apartment? It is going to get a tad crowded! |
Thanks Hey Jude...  ...The week end starts now...Let's all do the banana dance...
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5:02 pm Thanks Gail... if you need any help with matching outfits... LOL Jean F... I agree with everything you wrote. In Tommy's defence he was quite young and naive regarding his father. Terry Duckworth is a professional con artist. We the viewers know this and but Tommy didn't. I don't think all the warnings he got counted as it was the first time he met his father. If it was a stranger approaching him, he would have been more cautious. As for relationships not working out if the woman is stronger (aka Bossy) what planet are you all from? I see Hen pecked men all the time... LOL I can't stand Michelle in the factory office job. All she seems to do is chit chat with Carla and agree with everything she says like a lap dog. |
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TerryM, the thought never crossed my mind :-) Hey Jude, maybe for Sally that does feel like years! |
| What I don't understand is why Sally would say "it's been years" since she had a date when clearly she was with Frank 2 years ago. I guess the writers really do think we forget! ;) |
| I think after the Paris vacation, jeff was just too full on with Sally. I am wondering if he might have even proposed to her? My memory fails me sometimes! Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Sally: "... her relationship with Rosie's agent, Jeff, ends after the Weatherfield Gazette publish a story detailing Sally's cancer, Kevin's infidelity, baby Jack and Sophie's sexuality - information provided by Jeff... Sally and Kevin begin to rekindle their romance and relationship as Sally realises that she still loves Kevin and he has stood by her regardless. Unfortunately though Sally cannot accept Jack so they do not reconcile completely." |
| Monique - Of course my reasons are selfless. The fact that Michelle Keegan has been voted sexiest soap star five years in a row has nothing to do with it. :-) |
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Robin - Tue June 11 = May 28 2013 on youtube, Wed, June 12 = May 30 2013 on youtube Thu, June 13 = May 31 2013 on youtube |
| TerryM, that's very kind of you and you'll be saving many sweet young men from being at the receiving end of her wrath. Although I suspect your motives are not completely selfless! |
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O.K. - I'll volunteer to be with Tina and put up with her bossyness and emotional tirades. It'll be a tough job but someone's got to do it. :-) The line forms here: |
| Robin, I suggest youtube. If you go to the link I have posted above you'll find the episode where Tina goes into labour in the Rovers. I think it was Monday's episode this past week. Just go from there to find all the current episodes. Good luck! |
| I need some help please. I am in the middle of moving and haven't seen the street since Tue. I thought I could go to the CBC website and watch it but it looks like it is a week behind. I tried youtube but I think I saw the June UK episodes. How can I get caught up on my iPad? Thanks |
| Hi Pearl, wow, you're right when you say that Tina is high maintenance! She's never relaxed and content and always has issues with her men. They're always doing something wrong in her eyes! Sally was quite happy with Jeff for a while and he seemed to be crazy about her but after that weekend in Paris she lost interest and seemed very irritated by him. I forget exactly what supposedly happened there to turn her off him. I forget now if Jeff just disappeared or if there was a scene where she dumped him and he walked out of her life! |
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I think it's fun and different to have a story about online dating. It's also a very 21st century topic. Pearl, I agree completely with your assessment of Tina. Although I've been liking her behavior recently, I was concerned for Tommy at the end of last night's show because I wouldn't want to see him get treated the way she used to treat him. Tina does seem to choose men she can push around, and it's true in real life too that bossy women with strong characters choose such men to push around and it always baffles me that the men are attracted to those types of women. What some people call weak to me is a sweet, gentle disposition. I wish I could find one like that but they seem to go for the bossy women! I would rather see Tina hook up with a tough guy who would stand up to her and give as good as he gets. Gary would be a better match for her than Tommy, Jason or Graeme. |
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If Frank Foster was the last person Sally dated it has then been over a year since she had a man. (no wonder she gets cranky) He died in March 2012, they broke up sometime before that. I would rather see Sally have a storyline about online dating than more of her snipping at co-workers and neighbours. Sally W has loads of talent, she could handle meatier storylines than what she has had lately. I too like Tommy. Imo Tina is so high maintainance that no man could put up with to her emotional tirades. |
| Izzy would definitely need to have a strong support system as her child becomes more mobile. It would be very challenging for her but not impossible. I'm sure that there are many mothers out there who are physically challenged but raise families. Even mothers without any physical limitations need help to raise kids! It's not easy to do it alone. At the moment, I'd be more concerned about her and Gary's ability to be good parents because they have a very volatile relationship and both are not very mature. Right now they should be putting the little baby first and not fighting and throwing jealous tantrums. I realize it's a highly emotionally charged time for them but the baby doesn't seem to be their first priority, especially for Izzy! |
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Tommy isn't very bright and Tina doesn't have much common sense so they would probably make a good couple. She seems to like the kind of guy she can push around, like Graeme and Tommy. I feel sorry for Izzy but have my doubts about her being able to care for the baby once he starts to run around and climb, get out the door, etc. A mom has to be pretty fast to keep up with some kids unless that baby has a very placid personality, which is doubtful with Gary as his father! |
| Yes, I completely forgotten that Tommy worked at the garage with Tyrone. I guess because we have seen more of him at the hospital/Rovers/Bistro than at work! Sally was with Frank when he was running the factory while Carla was away. I think that was the last guy she was dating? |
| In life strong-willed women like Tina often hook up with weaker men and I would not be surprised if that is what happens here. Graeme in his own way was a bit of a push over too. As for Tommy's father coming back to make things right with him; don't hold your breath. After the way he treated his own parents, Tommy's dad is not going to change. He stole money off his own mother, remember? |
| Good post Rainbow, your memory is very good. I have never cared for Tommy, I always thought he was too dim for my tastes. As you point out the boy has no backbone either which is the other element which makes me find him rather unappealing as a partner. A strong person like Tina will tire of being the one to fix things in life and make the major decisions etc and things will unravel with him again. Gary and Izzy had no business ever thinking that they could have a child, "Mr. Simmering rage" and Izzy, the wronged have never been a very appealing or devoted couple IMO. I would love to see them both run off to parts unknown taking several respective family members with them. Rob is a creep who blames his sister for a bad childhood. And how are the two ex-cons going to open a business? Money? oh, probably from the same place they all get their cash for trips,etc -- that mysterious savings account. |
| I was pretty sure Tommy has been working at the garage and I'm glad to see a couple of you here have confirmed it! If he is apprenticing with Tyrone to become a mechanic, then I would think he's earning money, enough to go on a small holiday. I'm like Jeannie, I'm hoping Tommy becomes the man I know he can be!! |
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Some parents could make it work for their child while not being together as a couple...Gary is NOT one of them. Don't know how Izzy could do it financially on her own, nor coping w/a preemie and having a disability of her own...VERY difficult (of course not impossible). Maybe Tina could remain as an active 3rd parent. Jeannie..21:39 was an EXcellent post! agree totally about Tommy. Leah..I too hold out hope that Terry D returns to make it up to Tommy. Sally seems so desperate to find a fella, she said it's been sooooo long since she's had a date. Doesn't seem that long ago she was dating the fella that was Rosie's boss/agent. He was very smitten by Sally. Wasn't there another fella that she was dating about the same time? She also was sorta getting it on with Kevin in between. Maybe she is the type of person that NEEDS to have a man. She seems to get a tad bit nasty without. |
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Melissa - Tommy is working with Tyrone at the garage. As I recall Tommy took it upon himself to tell the Windass clan that Tina would not be a surrogate for them. By this time Tina had said she would and she had also got an insight of what it meant to Izzy and Gary. Not only had she given her word she now thought it was a good thing to do so she went ahead. It wasn't precisely being stubborn. And I didn't notice Tommy refusing to allow her to pay his bills either. I like Tommy, I just don't think he is the man for Tina. I think if Izzy persists in her refusal to let bygones be bygones between her and Gary she may find herself without a baby too. Tina won't think much of turning the baby over to a broken home. Izzy was in bits when Tina turned them out of the room so why can't she see that Gary feels the same when she tries to keep him away from the baby. Two minutes into their drinks they are rowing again. Great parents altogether. Take the baby and run Tina. |
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| What is Tommy working at now? I recall something about Tina setting him up to Work with Owen? But if that was the case, wouldn't we have seen him working on the rebuild of the Rovers? |
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Just waiting for Karl to be caught. He deserves to squirm while people try to figure out what really happened like he is doing. Glad Carla got their silk back, but it would be hard now to land Rob in jail over it unless they filmed the discovery of it with him now that it's back in the factory. He also torched the van, so the company is out that also which will up her insurance payments for future years.
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| Gayle, you brought up some good points about Izzy and Gary spending all their time in the pub, but something tells me that not much will change. Gary will be going to the pub probably more and leaving Izzy to look after the baby. Where did Tommy get all this money to take Tina on holiday ? And it sure did not take Rob much to threaten to dump Tracy in it. Oh.. feels so sorry for himself and then within less than a minute got that evil grin and plot his comeback. Darn near got whiplash it happened so fast. !! |
| Geez Mark, do you work in the women's clothing business? You certainly have very distinct tastes! I guess you just know what you like on the ladies. ;) I liked some of your suggestions for Sally! |
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I don't think Sally should be over dressing for the date. Like that business outfit she likes to wear; it's too formal. A nice one piece pencil dress should be fine for her date. solid Blue or red, not sure which. Or a white dress with big red flowers would look nice on her. I like her light pink shirt with the front pockets. If she wears that shirt she should wear white jeans, corked chunky wedge sandals and a white cowboy hat. That works for me. I don't see why Rob has to leave. Carla has no proof Rob or Tracy stole the silk unless her friend who set up the deal has proof. I think those text messages could be also be used as proof. I agree with Tracy, they didn't do anything worse than what goes on normally on Corrie street. Why was Michelle surprised Ryan wanted to stay up to listen to a DVD? Off tropics... I ate 2 donuts which I haven't eaten in about 3 years. Yucky... too sweat. Well now I know. |
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It was nice to see Chesney and Katy talking politely to each other for a change - also Gary and Izzy though there doesn't seem to be much hope for them. I understand how she feels - like second best. Rob and Tracy make a good pair and a nice change from all the Windass stuff. Tracy had a good point about Peter and all the stuff from his past. None of them are angels. Sophie was speaking clearly tonight - but I didn't understand much of what Jenna said. I don't think Sally needs fashion advice from either of them since she looks better than they do most of the time IMO. I'm finding Steve hard to understand lately. Maybe I need hearing aids. |
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| Thanks Hey Jude! It would certainly be a surprise if the baby does turn out to be Tommy's! I can see the storywriters going there. He'll probably need blood at some point and the test will reveal that neither Izzy or Gary are a match for the baby but Tina and/or Tommy are! Stranger things have happened LOL |
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Jeannie and Gail: Excellent posts! I really hope that baby turns out to be Tommy's! I have nothing to add! |
| Jeannie. Excellent post! I couldn't agree with you more. Tommy has always had the best of intentions and it's very true that he didn't want Tina to pay his debts but she is very stubborn and went ahead with it in spite of his insistence that she not. When he had that accident with the van, he was dead on his feet from working a few jobs and not getting any sleep and that attributed to the accident. I said that I thought he was a weakling and maybe that was a bit harsh!LOL I still think that the baby will turn out to be Tommy's baby if and when they ever do a routine paternity test, which you would think just might be standard procedure to put it on record that the child actually is that of the biological parents! It couldn't hurt to confirm it after going through it all! |
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Hi Rainbow/Wordsmith, welcome to the Guest Book! You've presented your case very well but respectfully, I have to disagree on some points. Yes, it could be said that Tommy has acted weakly, but his motives were, in my opinion, always pure. Yes, he let Terrible Terry steal and get away with his inheritance but only because he wanted to believe the best about his father. This is the man who sold him when he was a baby, but he still loved him, still hoped he'd changed, still wanted to have a father/son relationship. And that was what motivated his actions. Yes, he used the van for personal business, or was it to go to another job? I don't recall the details but he was working two jobs, trying desperately to pay Ty back the money he owed. Yes, he let drugs be hidden in the cars but he was afraid (probably justifiably) for his life. Yes, Tina took it upon herself to pay the debt but Tommy never asked her to. He pleaded with her not to. She was the one who insisted. And yes, he should offer to pay Tina the money back and he might yet. I haven't given up on him. I see the Tommy character, as young and immature, but not a wimp. Even though he and Tina were no longer in a relationship he's watched out for her during this pregnancy. He warned her about Gary too. Had she listened that nasty little scene might have been avoided. And he continues to watch out for her in the hospital. He's not perfect. And neither is she, or any of the Corrie characters, though I have to admit, Rita comes pretty close! That's what makes Corrie so good, the characters are rounded with good and bad traits. Even Tracy has her moments! |
| Tina is quite a sharp savvy woman but she's one of those women who in spite of her intelligence, repeatedly chooses the wrong men! Graeme was probably getting closer! Tommy is a nice guy and I've no doubt that he truly loves Tina. I do like Tommy, I think his heart is in the right place but he's a weakling. She needs a good strong man she can rely and depend on. (don't we all!) |
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Hi RainbowWordsmith ~ Welcome to the GuestBook ☺ I agree! You sure summed it up perfectly! Thanks for the reminders regarding Tommy's bad behavior! Please keep posting : ) ,V |
| RainbowWordsmith: You certainly managed to change my opinion of Tommy or maybe my opinion of the effects of being stupid/dull. Can't say I recall all of your items but they do add up to your conclusion. |
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Gail: I was thinking the same thing this morning re Karl and Dev - it dawned on me after I posted though!LOL Gayle: I have a niece who is married and she and her husband do the same sort of thing - drink wine and beer like it's going out of style - and she keeps talking about "when I get pregnant"!LOL Oh brother, is she in for a shock!LOL She knows she's going to have to stop cold turkey but the question will be, will she be able to? |
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First time writing in: Have been reading for a while now, and just have to say; TOMMY. HE is the instigator of the entire surrogacy plot, by being such a wimp that he: 1) gave all his inheritance to his deadbeat dad Terry; 2) borrowed Tyrone's money, then let Terry scarper with it, when he had a chance to take it back; 3) got involved in hiding drugs in cars; 4)used the pizza van for personal business, fell asleep at the wheel, crashed it, and added 2000 pounds to the debt. TINA stepped up, got rid of the loan shark/drug dealer, and went into the surrogacy to get the money to pay TOMMY'S debts. Then he leaves her, she still pays off the debt. Once the baby is born, and the debt paid, he comes crawling back and starts telling everyone who can and cannot have access to both Tina and the baby. Meanwhile, he has not offered Tina a ha-penny in repayment. I revise my first opinion, Tommy is not a wimp, he is a rotter, a pale imitation of his father. |
| Monique, I think that you are spot on about why Stella would want to push Karl and Dev together. But also, the writers want Dev to forgive him and maybe even start to think of him as a good friend so that when the truth does come out, it will be all the more sensational! There's always THAT! LOL |
| I think we are seeing Gary and Izzy's true colours right now with the baby situation. I don't think either one of them has any idea how difficult parenting can be. Before the baby was born Gary and Izzy spend an inordinate time drinking either in the pub or the bistro do they realize they won't have the time or the money to do that any longer. But then again all of the other parents on the street seem to think nothing of pawning their kids off for free babysitting - Katy, David, Tracey. I think Izzy needs to grow up and put the needs of her son first. I feel sorry for that little boy and am concerned for his future. |
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I agree that it's strange that Stella doesn't realize how awkward it would be for Dev to be in Karl's company. The only reason I can think of is that maybe she feels responsible for Dev not taking Sunita back based on her advice. And maybe she feels that this way Karl can atone for his wrongdoings by being supportive of Dev. She was sensitive to Dev's feelings during the reopening of the Rovers and it seems that she feels that she and Karl have some kind of responsibility towards Dev. But I think the real reason is for the writers to push Karl and Dev together so that Karl will start to freak out and the story will move along. I also think that Tina is the better mother at this point. I was amazed that Gary and Izzy were screaming at each other in front of the tiny baby. I am enjoying this storyline now for showing the aftermath of what happens with a surrogacy. |
| Pearl: I love that word "butinsky". Dingbat and bimbo also come to mind a lot when referring to Stella! |
| I also wondered why Stella wants to push Karl and Dev together! It's very insensitive of her not to realize how awkward the situation is for them considering the affair with Sunita. That alone is bad enough but she knows nothing about his involvement with the fire and Sunita's death of course! Karl never comes out and says he feels awkward because of the affair which he should do but it would probably fall on deaf ears with Stella LOL I think Dev is being incredibly tolerant of Karl under the circumstances, at this point anyway! Wait till he figures it all out! |
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Yes haili, why does Stella keep pushing Karl to spend time with Dev? I think in her mind she is being thoughtful and considerate but from Dev's side it must be an unwelcome intrustion. But thats Stella all over, a butinsky with good intentions. In a way Norris is more honest with his noseiness, he wants to know everyone's business for his own entertainment. lol Hi Daphne, will Rob and Tracy blame each other? For sure!! Tracy is already whining to Rob when things don't go her way, so no way will she stand by him now Carla knows he arranged the silk hist. Agree with whoever said Carla has done a good job of showing mixed emotions over her brother. She used to be an ice queen, not any more. |
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"So now Tina is banning the baby's parents from visiting?" The baby is legally Tina's until it is legally adopted by another couple, maybe Gary and Izzy. |
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I do Haili! re your post at 12:52 ~ I hate the way STella will not take 'no' for an answer‼ She's always 'going around there' or 'I'm going to talk to'...and if someone disagrees she gets that determined look to do 'whatever' it may be even more!...it is so annoying that no one can stand up to her OR say NO to what SHE say's or decides...EVER! >.< ! And WHY would Dev want to be around the slime ball that tore his family apart? makes no sense at all!> Bruce, Glo's trademark look is that big ol beaded necklace that sways to & fro, so no leopard print for her! lol |
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At the moment I am thinking Tina would be the better mother for the baby. She was the only one thinking of the baby while the parents were fighting, practically over his crib. If they can't sought out their differences I would understand if she decided to keep the baby. What kind of a household would that be for the child? Izzy needs to get over herself and start thinking about the welfare of the baby and what is best for him. That's being a mother! She went from not wanting a child to being desperate for a child in a nano-second it seems. Same with Gary. They'd better get their act together now at the same speed. I am enjoying this part of the story and also I am enjoying seeing Carla get one up on Tracy and Rob. Rob has had a taste of Tracy's demanding ways now - wonder if he will go off her? And I wonder if they will each blame the other:-) |
| At the moment I am thinking Tina would be the better mother for the baby. She was the only one thinking of the baby while the parents were fighting, practically over his crib. If they can't sought out their differences I would understand if decided to keep the baby. What kind of a household would that be for the child. Izzy needs to get over herself and start thinking about the welfare of the baby and what is best for him. |
| So the Rovers is more orange now? I will have to pay closer attention...Is that because of Glo being in charge now? (They must use a lot of "Orange Glo" when cleaning the bartop and tables!). Or is Glo just enjoying the pretense of being Queen? Actually I like Glo alot and love to see her irritate everyone in sight. But she needs those big wild earrings and the leopard skins that Bet Lynch used to wear. |
| How often does someone say, "We're going to wipe the slate clean and have a brand new start" on this show? It seems increasingly frequent to me. Maybe because the writers like to do that with the storylines on occasion - e.g. Ryan, Michelle's substitute child... |
| Haili I agree with your comments regarding why Stella keeps pushing her and Karl on Dev. Why on earth would Dev want anything to do with either one of them? They are leaving a woman in her seventies to work the bar single handedly? Aren't there usually 3 behind the bar? I know Gloria is an annoying know-it-all but still. Like everyone else I am so sick of the shouting in the hospital it would not be tolerated at all. So now Tina is banning the baby's parents from visiting? It is high time that some legal advice is sought. |
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Haili: Yes, and Stella knew about the affair, so another question as to why she keeps shoving Karl at Dev - I know, because it's a soap!LOL I actually like the colours in the new Rovers - I think the reddish-orange hues give it a feeling of warmth and coziness. The new upholstery is nice too, a bit brighter, but for how long will it stay clean!?LOL |
| Does anyone else find it ridiculous the way Stella keeps trying to make Karl socialize with Dev.? Karl helped break up Dev.'s marriage to Sunita so why on earth would Dev. want to be bothered with him? |
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Mark: the wallpaper looked brighter last night with an orange tinge but I kind of like it for a pub. Leah: there ought to be a law - but maybe a law against it! How would you sort out that can of worms? The couple provided the seed, but it couldn't have grown without Tina who nourished it and gave birth. It should be interesting to see how Carla handles Rob but I'm pretty sure that Tracy will be out of there fast. |
| OK, so I noticed that on tonight's episode they have Kieran Roberts as Producer and Stuart Blackburn as Exec Producer. But in yesterday's and Monday's episode, they listed Kieran Roberts as Exec. Producer and Stuart Blackburn as Producer. Strange! |
| I was just watching Corrie and I was reading the credits at the end and noticed that they have Kieran Roberts listed as the Executive Producer! What is up with that? I thought Stuart Blackburn was now the Executive Producer of Corrie! |
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Joanne, you need to keep telling your story. What a wonderful thing it is to have a happy ending to such a traumatic beginning. My daughter works with end-
of-life children and their families and most of their stories do not end well. We need to hear about more miracles.
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| Joanne: I just read your recent post and like Gail, I think that was a fabulous way for you to explain to your son about the scars - you sound like you've been a terrific Mom! |
| You're most welcome Joanne. Matt and his brother are very lucky to have a Mom like you. What you told him about his scars, what can I say, that's just awesome! |
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Gail, sorry, I meant to add my thanks to you, too, for your understanding. On topic: Glad to see Tina standing up to Izzy and Gary and telling them where they stand. She's right ... they were both selfish all the way through. Please tell me that we won't have much more of "Gloria" with her "my pub" routine every five minutes and every other sentence and preening herself like she's Queen of the May". She's not the landlady; she only lent Stella the money to pay off Owen for the repairs. I'm not that fond of "Stella", either, and can't stand "Karl" ... wish they and Eva would not be coming back again, and that Kevin and Ken will be. |
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Thanks, Mark, Julie, and Hey Jude for getting my point. We all react in our own way to the crises in our lives, and everyone has crises at times. Gail, yes, Matt and I have a particularly close bond, although it doesn't take anything from my special bond with the then three-year-old who came with me that day, who also grew up to be a wonderful and loving son, a great husband (according to his wife, and she should know) and a super father. The two brothers are very close, too ... have always been great friends. Mattie (I'm the only one allowed to call him that!)did end up with a body like a road-map from all the operation scars, but I told him they were like the medals soldiers get in battle for being brave, because every one was for a battle to live that he fought and won. Didn't want him to be ashamed of them or his body because of them. When he was 7 and repeated that to a school chum at the pool where I was teaching him to swim, I knew he'd be ok. Later, at Uni, when someone asked him, he said "Oh, there was this Great White Shark off the coast of Australia ..." little devil! That's enough of that story! |
| That's great news about the new series of Doc Martin! Can't wait for that, with Louisa, Martin and baby James together as a little family. (was the baby named James or was it Henry??) Wonder how long before we see it here? |
| I was cheering for Carla tonight! Rob is an idiot. I don't care what happens to him but really hope Tracy gets fired. I'm also enjoying Sally's foray into on-line dating! |
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I was hoping Gary would give Tina a kiss on the cheek when he was alone with her - he he. Tina should have whipped out a big sword and told Izzy and Gary that she will each give them a piece of the baby. The first one who yells "Stop" wins the baby as this would be the most loving parent. I never liked Carla, but she finally has an interesting story line. And she's showing a big of emotion for a change. Well Haili, ... it's kind of a terra cota (sp?) colour. The drapes should be a contrasting colour but I'm not sure which colour would be best for a red room. |
| Pearl: Thanks Pearl, good to know, will check it out later! |
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The way to Steve's heart if difo through his stomach. Usually I don't care for him but enjoyed today's opening scene very much. Do agree with you Gayle regarding Chesney. Have just read an article over on the CBC Corrie forum that list him as one of the cast members who have been signed on for another year. There were 5 in all, also listed where 5 cast members who have had a salary boost to keep them on board. If anyone is interested it is under episode discussion and posted today. Could list them here but some people may not want to know that far in the future. |
| I loved Sally talking about online dating and saying she'd be better off with a hot water bottle and it not hogging the bed or leaving underpants on the bathroom floor! Too funny! |
| That was a pretty small crib Katy and Ryan were trucking across the road yesterday. Joseph will be out of that crib in no time if that is what he is supposedly sleeping in! |
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I'm afraid I agree with Norris for once! This whole surrogate thing is just too cruel and unnatural. Someone is bound to be hurt. It will all end in tears! I'm liking Tina a lot more lately since she's standing up to the Windasses and Izzy. She's the only one putting the baby first these days and it looks like the law is on her side. Maybe she and Izzy could end up co-parenting - or would that be too sensible? I think Chesney could pick up a crib at the market for when Joseph stays over at his place. He and Katy should arrange a schedule but that also would make too much sense. |
| Leah, there are laws covering surrogacy. |
| I think this surrogacy storyline demonstrates that medical science is advancing so quickly the law can't keep up. I know Tina has bonded with the baby but she did accept money and therefore make a verbal contract to hand him over. There must also be written evidence from the clinic that performed the implant. If the baby is genetically proven to be Izzy's and Gary's that opens a huge can of worms for the future, eg if something should happen to Tina or if the child should have a medical issue or even if he should find out who his parents are and want to live with them. As the saying goes, "There ought to be a law." |
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6:07 pm Joanne that was a touching story. I'm glad to read that your son is now healthy and happy. Sandra, banging your head on the inner part of the door didn't affect your story. That was an exciting read. We have some good writers here on the Guestbook. Thank you Pearl. They should put big wheels under the crib. Haili, I'll check the wall colours again tonight LOL. |
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Monique, I agree with you that adoption is a choice too many people ignore or overlook because they want a piece of their own DNA represented in their child. However, I think Gary and Izzy attempted to adopt but didn't get very far in the process because he has a criminal past and a record of mental issues, including PTSD. Izzy's physical challenges were also of concern so they wouldn't pass the stringent guidelines for adoption. Daphne, Izzy had an unexpected pregnancy that resulted in a miscarriage which seemed to fuel the G/I decision to opt for surrogacy as she didn't want to go through another pregnancy just to be disappointed. The whole experience took too much out of her. From the frying pan into the fire!
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| I forgot to add this. Joanne, thanks for sharing the story of your son's birth with us. It was so beautiful and so moving. I can't even imagine the pain and anguish you were in going through that experience but thankfully it had such a happy ending! I expect you and your son have a very special bond with each other. |
| I couldn't agree more, having had two children, that the surrogate would definitely have all the same kind of emotional feelings because she has carried that baby and felt it move and knew that it was depending on her for it's life. It's only natural to feel some attachment to the baby! But having gone into it knowing it was not her baby and would be handed over to the biological parents, she has to accept that and also accept that the bio parents are also going to feel that love and attachment. Especially considering how desperate they must be for a child of their own child to even enter into a contract like this with a surrogate! Barring any kind of extenuating circumstances, (and I'm sure there will be some on Corrie!) It would have to be a very selfish person who would decide to keep the child IMO anyway. |
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Haili, I think you summed it up very well when you said that it was good of Tommy to be so supportive at the birth and understandable that he didn't want Tina to do this in the first place. I rarely have good things to say about Tina, but I was impressed with her for taking a back seat to Izzy and letting her be the first one to touch the baby even though she must be feeling attached to the child. This storyline and the discussions here have made me think about surrogacy in real life. It must be impossible for the surrogate mother to not get attached to the baby when she has nurtured it and felt its movements for nine months. This makes the surrogacy process very cruel in my opinion. The woman is not only renting out her womb, there are deep emotions attached. On Corrie we had a surrogate who knew the couple and wanted to help, but in real life it's often a girl who needs to do it for money and the couple she has to hand the baby to are almost strangers. This is just my opinion, but I think there are things that shouldn't be outsourced. I realize this puts me in the same camp as Norris, but so be it. If a couple wants a baby that badly, there are babies in need of a good home who are waiting to be adopted. |
| Joanne: Wow, I've got tears in my eyes. That was such a beautiful, powerful story. Thank you for sharing it! |
| Hi Mark, Glad to see you back on the GB. As for Chesney needing to buy another crib there should be no need as the (small) one they have can travel with Joesph to whatever house he is in at the moment. As for Ryan sleeping on the floor, probable Katy had young Joe in bed with her so even though he is now 18 mos old it would be safier for him without Ryan in there too. Thought it was a point in his favour to be that considerate. Guessing the crib will go on the floor where Ryan slept and he will go into the bed with Katy. Woo Terry, I know this is a setup you can't resist. |
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It would be understandable if Tina was crying due to hormone disruption after child birth but she held it together and I just hope she doesn't go into another depression. I think Izzy just had one shock too many: first was Gary's attempted betrayal and then the baby being so fragile. After she has a few days to simmer down, she'll probably calm down and let Gary see his son. As for Tommy, it's good that he was so supportive at the birth and understandable that he never wanted Tina to do this in the first place. I'm wondering how the writers will explain Ken's absence and if he's coming back or not; and if not, will they kill him off? Kevin too, though I suppose he could decide to sell up and move to be near his dad. |
| Daphne: Someone said, and I can't find who it was, that Izzy was an ugly crier, that to me was a "little" harsh! The girl can't help how her face contorts when she cries, but like others here, I totally "get" why she was crying so hard. No she didn't carry him and she didn't go through all the changes and pain of pregnancy, but he is her flesh and blood. I'd be crying pretty hard too if it were me. I don't think we've seen the end of Izzy crying, so be prepared! |
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I don't believe anyone was judging harshly. I think maybe they felt as I did that Izzy was bawling although she never carried and nurtured the baby while Tina held herself together - and when all is said and done that baby is now flesh of her flesh. With all due respect to you Joanne, you carried your baby and congratulations for willing him to live:-) I'm glad to see Tommy finally being supportive. Had he been so from the beginning the kiss that never was might not have happened:-) Does that even make sense???? |
| Joanne: Aw Joanne, that is such a touching, loving story, and I'm so glad things worked out and that that tiny baby is now a man and proud Father himself. This is why I didn't comment about Izzy's turmoil - unless people have been there, they really shouldn't judge too harshly IMHO. Thanks for sharing that. |
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With all respect to other's opinions and feelings re: Izzy's emotional outburst, my youngest son was flown to England, from North Africa, to the Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital 40+ hours after birth. I'd had a caesarean, so couldn't follow for six weeks, although my husband did fly over and came back to tell me it was like something from science-fiction with all the tubes and wires connected to the baby. They'd done three operations by then, and told him if they had to do a fourth, the baby would be too weak to survive. When I got there, after they'd done the fourth, and along with my three-year old son, the Staff Nurse took me aside and told me my baby was dying. I didn't cry then. When I'd scrubbed, robed and masked up, I was allowed to see him. My 7lb 4oz. birth-weight baby looked like any of the starving children you see in pleas for donations for Save The Children et al. I could see his whole skeleton under his skin, his hands were like bird claws, and when he cried he was too weak to make a sound. The only way I knew he was breathing was that when I put my hand on his chest, the diamonds in my engagement ring reflected from the lights over the incubator as his chest went up and down. The wonderful nurses had put my three-year-old to bed in a spare cot (he'd fallen asleep in the taxi from Heathrow) and I spent the next twelve hours persuading my baby that he had to live. I didn't cry then ... I was too shocked to cry. Luckily, I didn't know how many years, middle-of-the-night races to the hospital and major operations it would take to make him whole. Now when I see my wonderful 44-year-old "baby", who grew up to be a loving, and generous son to me, a much-loved kind and gentle partner to a wonderful woman and a super father to three of his own, I have a wee private cry sometimes. I'm entitled now, I think. We named him well ... Matthew ... it means a gift. |
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| Gayle: Maybe you missed it, but Tina did say she was still in hospital because she was being monitored for her BP. I think my prediction will come true, and Tina will def want to keep that baby. |
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Two thoughts, Izzy annoys me when she keeps harping to Gary about "all we went through". Exactly what did she go through?? She had a few clinic visits to harvest eggs which it was no effort for her to produce. As aggravating as Gary is, Izzy has no right to stop Gary seeing their baby. I don't know where she gets off deciding whether he can or cannot see his own child. I thought Tina was being very good in the way she is stepping back and allowing Izzy in, when she must be in turmoil inside herself. Thank you for understanding my post Pearl:-) |
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Izzy and Gary are really getting on my nerves. Does Izzy have any idea the problems a tiny little preemie have to overcome? There is no way she will be able to cope with that baby on her own considering her physical limitations. I know what Gary did was wrong but in my humble opinion he has a perfect right to see his child and I don't know how she has the right to stop him. Why is Tina still in the hospital? I'm so sick of Izzy and Gary shouting in the hospital corridor I liked how Tina told them off! Why is it everytime Ryan and Katie are walking up the street Chesney comes out the door shouting where is Joseph! If I were that nice young lady (Beth's niece) I forget her name I'd run for the hills, Chesney isn't exactly a catch! With his miserable face and all his baggage. |
| I don't know why Tina EVER thought Izzy and Gary would make a stable family for the baby...he is volatile and tends to over react to things, her father can be a bully and Izzy is confined to a wheel chair. What is stable about that situation? |
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Mark: maybe your TV colour needs adjusting. The wallpaper is a nice dark red on mine and looks quite nice. I don't think Izzy over-reacted to the kiss that never was. As she said, Gary would have gone much farther if Tina had let him and she feels betrayed. Tina won't see them as providing a stable home for that baby now so who knows what she's going to do - maybe keep the baby herself. |
| Sandra, good to hear from you again. I grew up on the coast of BC and I remember my Mom, Dad, Sister and I used to go to Kent's Beach on Sunday's during the summer. 3-4 times my sister and I used to go hunting for berries and saw little bear cubs climbing trees and walking through the woods. We were less than 10 - 12 feet away from them. Never occurred to us that Momma Bear could be around. Guess we were lucky that we never got cornered. Miss Corrie today, so cant comment. But I am sure there was lots of Gary, Izzy & Tina. |
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Sandra, nice to see your posts. Good luck to you and everyone on the GB and our families. I thought I watched today's episode but don't remember what some of you have talked about so maybe I left for groceries before it was on.
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| Sandra: Fantastic story up to the point that someone lost a head. Wow...All joking aside, I've never seen bears at all so this to me is very interesting.I'm presuming the Henry VIII is not involved. |
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Okay, bear with me lol. If we are sharing bear stories... As a kid a million years ago, my Dad, Mother and I were driving to Jasper for a little holiday. We saw a mother black bear and her cub foraging in the ditch beside the road. I may have been four years old, but it is one of my first memories. My Dad stopped the car so we could look and quick as a wink I jumped out. I was going to hug and pat that cute little living teddy bear. To this day I will never forget. The sow stood up to protect her cub and growled. How tall are you are at four years old? Maybe four feet? She loomed over me. About a million feet tall. I gasped and stopped dead. My Dad jumped out and grabbed the back of my overalls, opened the back door and literally threw me in the car. So hard and so fast I slid across the back seat and hit my head on the opposite door. Father jumped in the front and drove right off quickly. A memory I will never forget. I was brought up in the northern bush and am not afraid of black bears or any other wild animals except for grizzly bears. They will do anything for no reason at all. If you are from northern Alberta, you may recognize the road that goes to Grande Cache now. Many years ago, before there was a Grande Cache, it was just a Forestry Road that ended at a little campsite at the Big Berlund River. We often went camping there. Several of my Dad's cronies went up camping to fish there. One poor man was just standing beside the river casting his line and a grizzly came up behind him and just swatted off his head with one swipe. Witnessed by his friends. You can't trust grizzlies at all. |
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From Wikipedia entry on Doc Martin: Series 6 Martin Clunes announced a sixth series of Doc Martin on The Alan Titchmarsh Show (5 March 2012). It will be filmed in the spring of 2013, and broadcast that autumn. He had previously stated that a sixth series would probably be the final one.[17] |
| Selby: LOL, pretty funny! Someone mentioned stubble: I don't mind seeing it on a handsome guy, like, say, David Beckham, but on Owen, it just looks dirty! Go figure! Jean: Are you talking about a new season of Doc Martin, because we are still getting the shows from 2005 or somewhere in there. Martin Clunes was arrested for drunk driving? When did that happen? |
| Maybe I'm from a different age that no longer counts but one attempted kiss does not warrant Izzys reaction. There was no rape involved. The goof did try to apologize but to no avail. But I guess the show must go on. |
| Susan from Thornhill: With appropriately medicated bait. Just like they ended the rabies amongst skunks a few years ago. I think it was skunks. |
| Hey Jude from BC :There is an old joke/saying: Its hard to remember that your original intention was to drain the swamp when you are up to your a** in alligators . |
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OK Annette for sake of peace on this guestbook I will compromise. The wallpaper is Chinese Red. (a blend of red and orange) |
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Addendums: Izzy didn't wipe her hands with alcohol prior to stroking the preemy baby. Isn't his immune system weakened? If Ryan had to sleep on the floor, where are they going to put the crib? |
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No Sandra, I've never seen/heard of anyone with a first name of St John. I find it odd. Does St. stand for Saint? Alot of the British give a last name for a first name in respect. My brother, my Dad, my Grandfather, Great Grandfather and back further than that all have/had the middle name Prentice..after my G G G G Grandfather's wife's family. Mark..I didn't see the wallpaper being orange, I thought it looked deep reddish, may be embossed which gives off a shine and velvet at the same time. I'm going to remember to have a good long look around the pub again. Pearl...as much as I hate to say it because I Don't like Gary but you're right, he is the baby's father (far as we know)after all and he has a right to see his child...especially when the child may not survive. Tonight when the nurse advised that Tina express and that will be used to feed the wee one..Tina said that that wasn't the plan, so obviously there have been a lot of talking/agreeing to a set of rules..later Tina suggested Izzie give Gary another chance. I'm wondering if Tina will NOT give the baby up because Izzy & Gary are not going to be setting up a nice wee family together as 'the plan' was. |
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Hi haven't been to the G.B for a while,doe any one in Corrie land know if Doc Martin will be back. I heard he was fired by BBC.after he was arrested for a drunk driving charge.For shame it was a brilliant show. I am soooooo tired of the Windass family hope they emigrate somewhere. Love reading all your comments Corrie people thanks. |
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Sandra, same as you, I was aware that St. John was Sinjin, but never ran into anyone with this name. I must have seen it on a tv programme, probably British, as I watch a lot of British tv. I have missed a few episodes of Corrie lately, but I see that several of you think Izzy crying was OTT. Believe me, seeing a baby so, so small is heart wrenching. That and the fact that the happy family she planned was turned upside down by the not-kiss. This tells me that she is not really mature enough to deal with all the ups and downs of family life, especially if the baby has difficulties because of its early birth. My sister-in-law had a preemie and when I saw him I cried and cried, because I really didn't expect him to live. He was only about a two and a half pounds, and you could see right through his translucent skin. He grew up with a lot of problems, the biggest being he had my sister-in-law for a mother. There are so many problems that preemies can have, but I won't go into them here. Izzy didn't even know about that yet. I once saw a tv show on preemies where a mother told the interviewer that most parents of preemies are afraid that they won't live, and they are afraid that they will live. Anyway, on another topic. Selby, how do you propose that the City should administer birth control to racoons. I hate the little buggers. |
| Hello All: Haven't been around much lately. Both the computer and I have been down. It can be fixed - me not so much. I haven't read too far back, maybe I missed this discussion. All those siblings names on Sin Jin's gravestone seemed to me as a perfect beginning to walk into Roy's Cafe at any moment as living, breathing problems for Roy. (Hello - I am your brother!) I think there were two brothers and one sister besides Roy mentioned? The writers could have a field day with that. Mrs. Cropper, Roy's stepmother, could also play a big part. Many years ago an English lady friend told me that St. John was prounced Sin Jin so I was not surprised. What did surprise me is that I have never seen of anyones' first name being St. John. Anyone else? |
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Did anyone see the security camera in the hospital hallway? But they didn't have a camera near Sunita's room. I like Chesney's new girlfriend. So does Chesney have to buy a new crib now? Bruce the pub is more orange now. Too orange, like they got the same decorator that did the Bistro. Pearl, you are fair minded. I don't see how Izzy is going to win custody. To the judge: Uhhh... he tried to kiss another girl. I want to punish him. Uhhh... well my dad Owen paid for the baby so it's mine now. |
| vixen13: I completely agree. Stubble just looks grubby, and it's scratchy too! But then I don't find tattoos sexy either, and don't get me started on peircings! |
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I have never understood how "two day stubble" is considered "sexy", particularly when it's attached to a sagging, second chin as exhibited by Owen. Why draw attention to that particular deficit? Ladies, what do you think? Maybe I'm way out in left field!
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| Izzy didn't have time to cool down after finding out about Gary's pass and is feeling betrayed. I can understand that but maybe in time she will let him see the baby - or Tina may. It seems that Tina is the one who would get to decide since she gave birth to the baby. |
| I think Izzy is being unfair to Gary not letting him see the baby. It is his baby too, whether or not they split up, that won't change. If Katy and Chesney can sort out time for each with Joesph so should she with Gary. Guess we are in for a BIG custody battle with all and sundry getting involved. Wonder what side Owen is going to take? He surprised me today by blaming himself for pushing them into the surrogacy. |
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I think we all knew this surrogate story would all end in tears. Tina and that baby are bound to bond. Owen is all upset and I could almost feel sorry for him except for all the boring weeks the s. gang put us through. Yes, Izzy is an ugly crier and it looks like she's in for more disappointment - and more tears probably. On the bright side, Chesney made up with the new girl and Carla was good tonight in her scenes. How will Tracy wiggle out of this one? Bonny and Clyde indeed! |
| George: Duh! I get it now! Thx! |
| Hey Jude: I think Selby's talking about people who make allegations lol. |
| Oh good God, I meant Vixen!LOL |
| Hey Jude: I too don't put my garbage out till 7 or even 8 a.m. on garbage days either. According to our newspapers and TV news, if the city finds that people are putting their garbage out the night before pickup, they can be fined, but I know some people still do it and nothing changes. Here, I think the bear pop has probably exploded, and of course, they have just come out of hibernation. Last week a bear was killed on the East Coast Express - they seem to be everywhere, anytime of the day or night. Lately there's been an occurrence of bears wandering around weekly. I don't know what the answer is, but I hate to hear about them being shot and killed. |
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Hey Jude, I'm wondering if these bears had already been relocated and found their way back to the neighbourhood. That's usually a death sentence. As I explained on the GB before, our neighbourhood has a bear problem and so, no one leaves garbage out. We keep the garbage indoors until just before garbage collection which is Monday mornings at about 8:00 a.m. Previously I always had my garbage out at about 6:00 a.m. because I left for work at 6:15 a.m. and things were okay. However, now I put it out at 7:00 a.m. and the bear is out and about in our neighbourhood after that time getting into garbage. It's hard to know what to do to keep humans and bears alike safe.
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Selby: Sorry, I must be dense, I don't get it. An hour ago on our local news, it was reported 2 bears were fighting in someone's backyard in Burnaby. Animal control officers were called and both were shot and killed - couldn't they have just been relocated? So sad :( |
| I can't believe I am going to tell this joke but...a man wrapped in saran wrap goes to see a psychiatrist and asks him what is wrong...the dr says...clearly I can see your nuts... |
| Hey Jude from BC: At the moment I think Rob is more concerned with alligators:) |
| haili, That's exactly what I thought about Izzy saying she wishes she "could have done it" for Tina. She COULD have and SHOULD have, IMO! Lots of women have miscarriages, many of them in a first pregnancy, and most of them try again successfully, without whining. Gayle & vixen & haili---Izzy's crying scenes always leave me cold, as she looks to me like a toddler having a tantrum. Those tight pressed lips look to me more angry than sad. |
| Vixen: Lol! |
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Hey Jude, it's far too late for the discussion concerning Rob Ford and birth control -- about 44 years roo late!
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Finally got my mojo back and caught up with Corrie after a week's absence (UK eppies, that is). Though lacking interest at first, I perked up at the best line ever: Tracy: You're always talking down to me. Carla: That's unavoidable. |
| Selby: Talk to Rob Ford!! Maybe he can do something about the birth control!!LOL |
| Haili's comet....I mean comment got me googling! I never realized that onion, potato and tomato are not happy in a fridge. I buy those adorably cute mini potato's and refridgerate them too. Tomato's get eaten as they're bought! |
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Old onion joke...Outrageously off topic. A man goes to the Dr. with a banana stuck in his left ear, an onion in the right ear and a carrot up his nostril. He says" Dr. Whatever is wrong with me?" The Dr, replied "It's obvious, you need to eat more sensibly...." |
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Maybe our coyotes caught the road runner. We have every other kind of bird but no road runner! Mookie: you should never ever keep onions in the refrigerator, no, no, no, no. Cha cha cha. |
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My first coyote experience was right at my house when I was about 6 years old. I wasn't scared even though the coyote was acting in a very aggressive manner. I could tell that he was a highly intelligent beast with a lot of sly and cunning behaviour. He was ordering a lot of stuff from Acme and had this odd obsession with catching a roadrunner. BEEP BEEP!!! |
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I saw my first coyote about 25 years ago in a recently ploughed field about 5 miles north of the 401 and about 15 miles east of Belleville Ont. I thought it was just a big dog until it ran off--thank heavens. The I saw the peculiar shape of the back. I don't believe big cities should harbour such big beasts that have a history of biting babies and eating dogs. I also think the people of Toronto should have a program of birth control to reduce the number of raccoons and the millions of dollars of damage they do every year. |
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We have an "Un-fan Club for Gary Windasse" here.:) I might be the only one but I felt for Izzy at the hospital..she'd been through some emotional stuff before the baby was born, then the uncertainty of the baby even making it and not hearing him cry..very very emotional. I'm glad Tina allowed Izzy to be the first to touch him and that she is including Izzy. (and NOT gary) *Happy Birthday Chris* We have coyotes here in my area. Don't hear anything from them at this time but some nights it's scarey to awaken to them screaming..they sound like lotsa babies crying loudly and it can go on for quite a while. Never used to hear/see them but since so much development is being done and they are loosing their habitat, they've HAD to come closer to us. |
| JeanF....Thanks. I'm a little sad about that poor onion. I threw him out and the new bag of onions were all cut up. It made me cry. Ba dum!!!!!! |
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Just to add a few notes re; coydogs... They have been spotted in St. Catharines as well as Fort Erie and Ridgeway. For a time there was the local warning not to let a cat or dog out without supervision in one subdivision in Ft. Erie because coydogs would catch and eat them. Many years ago a coydog accosted a shopper in the parking lot at the mall in Ft. Erie. They have been around for a long time but perhaps their numbers are increasing. I actually saw four of them once chasing a deer through a field. I tried to keep my car between them and the deer so it could get away but I don't know what happened. Four of them were probably not much of a match for one deer. Watch out for rabid wild animals too. I was chased by a crow with rabies about 30 years ago but before it could reach me it flipped over on its back and died right in front of me. Nature is lovely but do be careful out there folks. As for rotting onions, yup, gotta' get rid of those Mookie! They are too nasty to cause much trouble though because there is no way you could get them close enough to make you ill. They reek! However if one jumps out and bites you run like .............! |
Chris: A very Happy Birthday to you!
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| Mookie: Loved your 16:34 post! Too funny! |
| Mookie: The 'off topic spoiler' was brilliant. You made my day! I'm still laughing. |
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SUSAN....I love the new nature theme of the GB after that chocolate theme. When coyotes hunch up their backs...and usually have their tails between their legs and show teeth it's a message to back off. In my experience we were getting to close to the den (and the pups) They look quite intimidating and move in a jerky way. This time of year the coyotes are very protective because the pups are getting active and the parents are just doing their job keeping their little ones safe. Sincerely, Mookie Suzuki |
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OFF TROPICS SLIGHTLY TEMPERATE SEASONALLY COLD - Vera thanks! ON TOPIC BUT VERY LITTLE SPOILAGE I thought Sally's comments to Norris then Steve were great! COMPLETELY SPOILED AND NEED TO THROW OUT That onion in the bottom right hand drawer in my fridge Humbly, Mook |
| Several years ago I saw what I'm pretty sure were coyote when I picked my son up as York University campus. My headlights hit what I thought were several dogs or wolves, and then I saw that they had hunched backs, and thought they probably were coyotes. I wasn't afraid because I was in the car, but I wouldn't have wanted to be walking out to Keele St. with them there. |
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I just want to set the record straight and state that I do NOT like Gary at all - he's a bully. Selby: Your post made me laugh, but Gary would have def fit into that crowd of 50 years ago!LOL |
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Mookie, in the 13 years I have been visiting the Guestbook that IS the first 'off topic spoiler' I have ever seen LOL!, you're so silly... : D ‼ ...but seriously tho, your bear advice & info. is very important, thanks for sharing! signed, your friend ,V : ) |
| Gayle from ontario: I have no patience for Gary. I recall guys like him in public school 50 years ago. Wild eyed, hair triggered, no patience and minimal brain power. Back in those days they were alway bitting their fingernails and spitting the chips on the ground, spitting all over the place and looking for a fight. Gary fits in with that crowd. |
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OFF TOPIC SPOILER......I have to add that I have encountered tons of bears and I love them. They deserve respect but as mentioned below they really don't want anything to do with us. Unfortunately leaving food/garbage around habituates them to humans and usually ends with them losing their lives. The only time I was really scared was walking with 2 puppies by a really loud river and seeing a big steaming bear poop. I knew he/she was near and didn't want to surprise the bear so I backed out carrying two pups and singing at the top of my lungs. Okay it wasn't a SPOILER but I think it's a first off topic spoiler in the history of the guestbook. Signed, Mook |
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~☺~HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS~☺~ Wishing you all the best ~ Have a wonderful day‼ ...and Thank You for all the great info. and links you share with us here on the GB! : ) |
| I didn't like Izzy's crying scene either. It was Tina who gave birth and she wasn't crying. Izzy was over the top but then the whole family is over the top - and annoying. Don't get me started on Gary! |
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I, too, Gayle, thought Izzy's crying jag was OTT and very inappropriate. It was jarring to see and didn't muster any sympathy for her from me, at least Maybe I've been desensitized to the whole Windass (an appropriate name when you think about it!) crew. I'm pleased to see that when push came to shove and Tina found herself in a difficult spot, she turned to Tommy and he actually responded in a very supportive, tender fashion.
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| Gayle: No I thought it was fairly normal and realistic for the gang to be there, even Rita and Dennis. Tina was 2 months early, so obviously there would be great concern. I know the Armstrong's and Windasses (God, I hate that name!), have been insufferable, and Rita did say to Dennis she thinks of Tina as family, so I thought it was quite natural, BUT DEF security should have told them to be quiet or leave - no one should get away with talking like that in a hospital for sure. I can see Tina getting attached to that baby and not wanting to give him up though! :) |
| Did anyone else think the huge crowd at the hospital was a bit much? Dennis and Rita come on. Pearl I agree with your comment regarding Karl going to visit Dev. I thought some of the neighbours would have been more supportive and kinder with Dev. At least Paul made an effort. Does anyone else wonder what the point of Paul's suddenly new friend? Annette I also agree with you regarding Gary he annoys the heck out of me. The whole gang arguing in the hospital waiting room bugged me they are in a hospital for heaven's sake I would think security would tell them to quiet down or leave. Not to be cruel but I wasn't not impressed with Izzy's crying scene last night. Maybe I'm just really sick of the Anna and Owen's families all together. |
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Pearl: the insurance co. didn't pay because the pub keys were hung where anyone could get them and they assumed that Sunita took them. Good point about the house keys; they should have been with her. Bruce: I think they kept the pub looking the same on purpose since people like it that way. There is new upholstery that's a lot lighter than the last stuff. Mark: you got that right; Katy is a big hypocrite and I get tired of her miserable face and sulky attitude, but I also get sick of Gary and his pushy attitude. Animal chatters: we have bears and cougars in Ont. and my grand kids had to be on the lookout for a cougar when they went out. I've seen foxes, rabbits, raccoons here and someone saw a possum. We also have coyotes but I haven't seen any yet. |
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OFF TOPIC Another poster mentioned the great actress Geraldine McEwan (from `Mulberry`)...she was also great in `The Barchester Chronicles` and also recently released on DVD is `The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie` (not to be confused with the great film with the equally great Maggie Smith). But the TV mini-series of Brodie with McEwan is on a par with some of the greatest Brit mini-series. I recommend it highly. |
| Sorry to post my ignorance here, but I am in and out of Corrie these days due to my own home renos that are on-going---but the new Rovers looks exactly the same as before? (I haven't seen the back rooms yet) My home renos are a complete makeover. Not that I wanted the Rovers to become a chrome shiny sports-bar, but did ITV keep the old set for money reasons. |
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Happy Birthday Chris. :) Hey Jude, your Son must have been scared. I would have booked it double time. !! Tina sure put up with a lot carrying the baby. Not too sure I would have been able to hold my tongue as well as she did putting up with Anna, Owen & Gary. I felt so bad for Izzy, and am glad that her and Tina are good after everything that has happened. |
OFF TOPIC We lived at my grandmother's in Banff after my Mom passed away when I was 9. Dad had a job in Calgary and got a house built for us to move to. We saw bears quite often. Sometimes while we were taking in wash from the line or while using the swing in the trees or we were just playing in the woods. I had two sisters, so usually there would be at least 2 of us out there. Once we saw them we knew not to go any closer and they never seemed to really come to us, just went by. We knew to worry about cubs being between us and the mother bear. I would be more afraid of a cougar as they stalk their prey. SPOILER ALERT Glad everyone was giving Gary what for about his near kiss with Tina. Still, I think she could forgive him later. I managed to go to the show with Julie and David and really enjoyed it also. If I had tried to ask a question, it would be about how much money do they make doing the show? They sure seem to work hard and give up a lot of their lives. I would be happy with even just 3 episodes a week.
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Angie from British Columbia, I also live in the West Kootenay and the bears cross my yard quite often. I just phone some of my neighbours to put them on the alert. My little dog Jazz always alerts me to their presence. A little annoying when it is three in the morning as he keeps growling all the time they are around. He would chase them if I let him; he has more courage than sense. |
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**spoiler** Soooo glad Tommy got in the ambulance..Gary was all ready to hop in! The more I see him..the more I can't stand him! He's always angry and agitated. I like how Owen told him at the hospital that he 'brought it all on himself'. Izzy..yea! Don't let Gary talk himself back with you. Wonder how this is going to affect Anna's & Owen's relationship with each other and each other's kids?? Joanne..I also Loved Pam Ferris in 'The Darling Buds of May'..I thought the Larkin family were "PERFEK". :) Although I have never met a bear, there are often warnings in my area and as Angie said..it usually has something to do with humans leaving food/garbage bags out. |
| Angie: Then you'll like this: my son just came in the door an hour ago and said he came almost face-to-face with a large black bear! My son was walking home and the bear came out of a cul-de-sac where they are still in the process of building homes. My son said he came around one of those big metal bins, about 60' away from him and just stopped when my son was walking by. Needless to say my son booked it home! |
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off topic: I love reading all the bears stories. I too see the bears of Vancouver and area on tv and the common theme seems to be, DON'T LEAVE GARBAGE OUT!!!! People are only asking for trouble when they do and the poor bears pay with their lives for peoples stupidity. Bears are not as evil and scary as they are made out to be. I am speaking from experience. I live in rural B.C.(in the country on a mountain) I have had encounters many times with bears (much to my biggest fear) If you give them the space and respect and don't flip out they will leave cuz they do not want to be with you either. On my walks and in my yard I have met bears at least 6 different times and once in the Kootenays a young grizzle- yikes that was frightening and Cougars twice. |
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Good point about how did the keys get back Pearl. With all the affairs and cheating going on the street it all comes down to the kiss that never happened. And the indignant Katy takes the cake in hypocrisy. |
| Re the keys; I thought Daphne ment Sunita's house keys that Karl returned to #7. Those should have been the keys found on her person when taken to the hospital. How did they get home when she never did? Also the police should be asking how she got the pub keys when she no longer worked there? Surely Stella would have asked for them back when she quit (or was fired) esp. under the circumstance of leaving with Stella's partner. Karl has some neck to go see if Dev was OK. Did he not want Stella getting to friendly with Dev or was he just trying to keep track of what Dev may be thinking? Once back at the pub his "we had a long talk" was sickening. Between repugent Karl and 'I'm the queen' Gloria, the Rover's won't be much pleasanter to spend an evening than the war-roaring Bistro. |
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Daphne: maybe people are supposed to think that Sunita used the keys to open the door, then put them in her purse or pocket. I agree that Tina is as much the mother as Izzy since her body nourished and carried the baby before giving birth. |
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SPOILER** I'm so glad that Tina finally had that baby - and it was refreshing that she actually had it in the hospital. I couldn't get over Izzy having the nerve to say that she would have done it for Tina if she could have! Izzy was told she could have a baby but didn't want to go through it all again after her miscarriage. The tears over not being able to hold him were a bit silly too after Tina did all the work of carrying the baby and giving birth and she couldn't hold him either. Rob is pretty sly and Tracy could get all the blame for the theft if they get caught and end up back in the slammer, but why didn't he have a buyer lined up before they got into the whole thing? |
| Personally I feel that Tina has every right to be called the mother. She has nurtured it for nine months while all Izzy did was supply the egg with no effort and she has not nourished the child as Tina has. Just my take of course. So glad to hear things are starting to move with the Karl problem in the UK. Only a couple of weeks to go:-) I am still puzzled over how it will come out. It must be something to do with those keys that Karl so carefully replaced in Dev's house don't you think? How would Sunita have been able to put them back and she wouldn't go out without them would she??? Anyone else have any bright ideas? |
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I know of a surrogate case in which the wife could not carry children and so her mother volunteered to be the surrogate. A fertilized egg from the daughter and son-in-law was implanted into the mother/mother-in-law's womb and she carried the baby to term. The couple had their perfect little boy. I told my own children that was beyond the call of duty and not to expect me to volunteer for womb-rental! YIKES!!
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| Joanne: I believe there is a case right here in Canada, where a woman carried twins for her sister. The sister and husband now have to adopt their own children! Going to make Christmas' pretty awkward around the old dinner table!LOL |
| To Vixen13: Yes, I just recently saw Scott & Bailey and agree with your assessment of "Karen" (Suranne Jones) as to the part she plays in this show. I plan to continue watching as long as PBS runs the series. Try researching the series' history on the internet; I think it's been in production for a while, and in fact, Suranne Jones may be leaving the show (just when we've re-discovered her!). |
| You may well ask that Joanne, but that is the law. After the birth, the birth mother and egg and sperm donar go though a period of passing legal papers around and though the courts for the adoption process. |
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Joanne, I believe that legally the baby is Tina's and she will be the official mother-of-record. Since she made a deal with the parents to be a surrogate, after the birth, the baby will legally be adopted by Izzy and Gary. However, should Tina change her mind, I think the law will be on her side. Much was made of Izzy's eggs being harvested and so we were led to believe that the baby was an Izzy/Gary product. But, if by some soap-miracle, Tina was pregnant prior to the implanting of the I/G egg, the baby could be a Tina and Tommy production, as others have suggested on the GB.
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I first saw Stephanie Cole years ago in "Tenko", a wonderful series about a lot of women captured and interned by the Japanese in World War Two. Saw Pam Ferris for my first time in "The Darling Buds of May". Have adored Geraldine McEwan since I, too, saw her in "Mulberry", another excellent show that was cut off and cancelled much too soon. On topic. I have a question which may sound daft, so forgive. If a surrogate mother carries a baby for another couple, and it is not hers in any way at all genetically, how can it be hers under law? She's merely the method by which the baby is carried and birthed. |
| What a great daughter you have Janice and how wonderful you could enjoy the show together. |
| Frankie- I'm very pleased you enjoyed the Cropper's show. Two of the nicest people you could see. I wish Julie wasn't leaving later this year. |
| My daughter and I had a awesome night in Edmonton with David & Julie,it was a full house.They put on a wonderful show.My daughter drove an hour and half from Ponoka to pick me up,then two hours to Edmonton But it was worth it. |
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Vixen..never heard of that show before but if Suranne Jones (karen) is in it, it's worth watching! (i loved karen) Frankie..that's wonderful you saw Roy & Haley! So interesting to see/hear the actors (out of their characters). Glad you enjoyed it and told us about it. :) Had a sunny/lovely day yesterday(without rain for a change). |
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I happened upon a PBS offering last night called Scott & Bailey. Knowing nothing about the show and having never heard its name prior to last night, I decided to take a chance on it and was pleasantly surprised. In the title role of Bailey was none other than Suranne Jones, Karen Macdonald of Coronation Street fame. She played a DC, described as “emotionally immature”, so there was some of the old Karen surfacing, but she was much less raw, less edgy and smoother around the edges than her CS character. The second surprise was that DCI Gill Murray was played by Amelia Bullmore who appeared on the cobbles as Steph Barnes, beginning in 1990. She appeared a bit more “mature” than when I saw her last, but 23 years will do that to do. As luck would have it, last night’s episode was the first in the series which began in 2011, so it’s relatively contemporary, and I’ll give it a go again next week to see how things progress. Has anyone seen this show before?
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| Hi Frankie, I love hearing about Corrie events! Thank you for sharing‼ I can tell you had a wonderful time ☺ |
| Yes indeed. It was a warm and entertaining evening... even if I meant to say Julie, not Julia. Sorry 'bout that. |
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Frankie, what fun! Sounds as tho' you had a most entertaining evening, with Julia and David enjoying themselves as much as the fans did. Must have been great to see them in a venue different from Coronation Street. Lucky you!!
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Last evening I was in Calgary to attend the "Croppers - Full English" evening. David and Julia (Roy and Haley) gave the audience a delightful couple of hours. They reflected on their experiences with Corrie and gave us insights to their and various other Corrie characters. Both actors were absolutely charming. You could see the respect they have for each other, the show and the other actors. This evening they're in Edmonton, and later in the week in Victoria and Nanaimo. I highly recommend taking the time to see them. I'd go to see them again in a heartbeat. Thank you for coming David and Julia!!! |
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Yes, Ryan overheard Tina and Gary talking about his indiscretion. Gary spends the next 30 minutes of our screen worrying and fretting. Izzy invites Ryan to tea with Katy, Owen and Anna and Gary and Ryan keep exchanging looks all through it. Finally Gary confronts Ryan who plays it cool and when they all go to the Bistro for a drink, Ryan admits there's something he overheard. Gary comes clean to the two of them and he's pretty sure his goose is cooked. Now Gary is in full freak out mode and if Izzy hasn't noticed the tension between Gary and Tina before she sure will now. The battle is on to stop Katy telling Izzy. I can see why she's worried, of course but sometimes a mistake really is just a mistake. Gary loves Izzy, he really does, he had a crush and the feelings about the baby got all mixed up in it. Katy's not going to tell but she'll be keeping a sharp eye out. If it was my sister, i'd still probably tell her and let them explain it themselves. Tough position to be in. High and mighty Katy is now stalking Tina and Gary who is so bleedin' obvious. It's bringing Tommy closer to Tina who's getting fed up with the whole clan. Tina quit the builders' yard job and Owen seems suspicious. Why would he be? On the surface, she's saying that she's pregnant and two jobs is too much. It's perfectly reasonable. And she's getting fed up with the Windasses and Rita knows something's up too. Peter and Rob finally come to a parting of the ways and about time too. Rob and Peter both bend Carla's ear about the other one and Carla can see it's just not working out. Rob then decides Carla owes him. For what, I can't imagine. I suppose because in three weeks he's managed to get the bookies' taking up a bit? Rob is resentful but is coming back to the factory. Well he does still own 30 percent right? Why was he so intent on getting hold of a share of the bookies' too? Greedy guts. Can Rob ever stop banging on about Peter and Carla? You'd think Tracy would be bored to tears by now. I am waiting for her to roll her eyes once Rob turns away and leaves. Michelle is furious that Rob is coming back and he's planning on making the best of it. Michelle causes so much face ache that Carla has to marginalize Rob in the factory to keep the peace and that's not going to work. Carla insists he go back to distribution. There was plenty of work for both he and Carla and Michelle before but since Michelle is taking more responsibility, Carla reckons now there's just too much butting heads in that tiny little office. So now Rob's lifelong resentment has even more fuel and he's not going to let Carla get away with it, with Tracy egging him on. Rob started back at the factory and was all sweet and manners to Carla. Sure sign something's up. Ah, he's going to engineer a heist of an order of silk worth 20K and letting Carla claim the insurance. A. What's the point aside from delaying the order and B. Who on earth would he manage to find to buy it? There can't be that many local knicker factories. Tracy handed over the goods and tore her shirt. Did it look to you like she was hoping for an added romp with the guy she was dealing with? I wonder if she hit herself or if she let the guy do it and she abandoned the van as well. She said the first thing she did was call the police but she was very late getting back to the factory and that's where they miraculously turned up. Carla is highly suspicious and she knows Rob is perfectly capable of arranging this scam and Rob knows she suspects. Peter thinks he can tell if Tracy is lying so he's going to have her go over the whole story again. and he is certain it's a scam. Carla's still unsure of what to do. The van ended up being burned out. Could they tell if there was silk in the back? Roy has clearly been deeply affected by his father's death. He doesn't seem to be able to settle into anything without coming back to the subject but refuses to talk about it when Sylvia or Hayley try to bring up the subject. You notice that Roy's name was on the headstone as one of the surviving children. That really seemed to get to Roy. Roy doesn't think he has the emotions expected of him regarding his father's death but he clearly has some. Is Roy heading for a breakdown? By bottling it all up inside, as Roy always does, is already having an effect. His whole world is upside down and he is lashing out at all and sundry and playing litter police. The pub is going to be open soon. Gloria wanted to help redo it all but her tastes are far more glam than Stella's. Karl reckons he can't sleep because he wants it to be right for Stella but really, he probably can't face the reopening of the scene of his crimes. Dev is managing but not well. Stella is trying to be sensitive, in a hard spot to want to celebrate opening the pub but not wanting to shove bad memories in his face either. It'll be low key. Oh yes. Cut to Gloria buying balloons and banners. Karl's working hard, probably harder than he ever has! It's interesting to see some of the little details of the pub starting to come out. I like the window in the back room though normally it's covered in curtains. Karl isn't doing a very good job and Stella reckons he's working too hard. That's because he doesn't know how to work hard. Gloria wanting a guided tour in the middle of the big push to finish was thoughtless too. Later in the shop, Glo and Karl get to see first hand how Dev isn't coping all that well and it looks like the kids aren't either. So the pub is open. Do you like it? I do, the bricky red textured wallpaper is much nicer than the old stuff and the paler upholstery is a nice contrast though it's going to get dirty fast. I hope they stain-treated it. I like that they apparently got all second hand pub furniture because that's a bit more lived-in. I like the photo of Betty that DOESN'T have the appalling landlady inscription on it. It wasn't without its drama though. Tina has been over tired and complaining about back pain and is tetchy and fed up to the back teeth of all things Windass. She raked Gary over the coals, she snapped at Izzy who's really getting concerned and yes, you guessed it, mere minutes after Izzy told Katy that Gary was a loyal guy and Katy says he's not, Izzy overheard Tina and Gary arguing and Tina let the cat out of the bag, walked back into the pub and doubled over in labour. Dev doesn't know what to do with mail that comes for Sunita. I'd just mark on it "Return to sender" and chuck it back. Dev should be talking to Peter, at least he's been there with a child that has had a hard time with family issues and loss. Oh. Mary is in situ in the house? I guess she did get hired on as nanny. Well that was stupid...Dev is messed up and seems surprised when she suggests Aadi is feeling the same way. Little boy. lost his mother. Mother accused of burning down the pub. How do you think he's feeling?? See, it all revolves around Dev and it always has. Dev is not coping well with Aadi in particular and Mary advises him that if he demonstrates that he's coping better himself, it might help Aadi as well so Dev decides to go to the pub opening after all. He walks in on a speech, a speech that Stella wasn't going to make but Gloria put her on a spot. She toasted to present and absent friends that made a lump in my throat. Yep, a lot of memories under that roof. Meanwhile Chesney is intent on self improvement and has bought some dumbbells. There's probably a reason they're called that, at least where Ches is concerned. Chesney says he's not doing the weight lifting for Katy but you know he is. He says he's sick of being pushed around. He also needed Dutch courage of a beer before his date. He still misses Katy. It's still weird seeing him drinking beer and buying vodka after watching him grow up from a little boy. Sinead is back but Chesney doesn't seem interested but she is. Naturally Katy and Ryan would come in while Chesney is on a date. Cue Chesney moaning and bitching about Katy leaving Joseph again. It's clear to me and to Sinead that Chesney really is just putting on a show for Katy. Really stupid that Ryan and Katy would make a point of sitting directly across from Chesney and Sinead and both of them childishly making a fuss of their partners. Sheesh. Then when Sinead didn't want to "go inside" with him, he got all rude again. I don't think he really wanted the date in the first place. Laughed at Steve giving Chesney relationship advice. As Ches pointed out, last person who would be one to give really good advice since he never seems to learn from his own mistakes. Where's Rob living anyway? He's not staying over at the Barlows' because he and Tracy went back to his place but he was living in Carla's flat and she's sold it. What on earth has Steve done to his head! I always wonder why people paint the walls a really nice colour and then paper over it. Why not just paint it white? Lines of the week: Roy to Craig "Do you think it's going to develop little legs and take itself to the nearst bin?" Beth to Sinead about men "They're all interested, just some are better at hiding it than others" Rob to Carla "No need to bite her head off" Carla "Sorry, force of habit" Steve "Women like to know who's boss, you got to show 'em the trou.....sers" (as Michelle walks up...wearing trousers) Carla to Peter "You've got a built in Tracy Barlow lie detector?" Peter "Yes, in full working order, new batteries" Rob "Did you really murder your ex?" Tracy "Does it really matter?... I have never murdered anyone I liked" (that wouldn't make me feel better) Rita to Dennis "Do you know what a mojo is?" Dennis "a cocktail?" (that's Mohito!) Sean "WWBS is my motto... What would Betty say?" (Too right!) Kirk "I should have been the one out there getting robbed" |
| Vixen: Wow, that is scary - I would have been terrified for sure. Some silly people still think bears are cute and don't realize a bear can turn in no time at all, as someone here said, they can move a lot faster than they look like they can. I heard a story last week someone in New Zealand I think it was, was trying to photograph a beaver, and the beaver turned on him, bit his leg or foot, and the guy died from bleeding to death - makes you wonder about some people! |
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Hey Jude, I'm terrified of meeting a bear head on, as well, because I know when they're wandering around a neighbourhood, they're hungry. One Hallowe'en, at dusk, a small bear wandered into my back yard to eat apples from the apple tree, just as kids were arriving to trick or treat. I called over to those parents/kids on the road adjacent to the apple tree to warn them of my visitor and it scared the bear. He ran toward the house, toward me and climbed up a blue spruce tree that's very near the house and overlooks the deck I was on. This caused a crowd to gather as word spread there was a bear in the tree. No one came for candy, tho', as they had to walk past the bear to get to the door. Once the crowd dispersed, the bear left.
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| I'm sorry to hear about Doreen, I, too, remember the name. There are others I remember from about 10 years ago that we've never heard from again and I quite often wonder what happened to them. |
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Plaid Cat: That's too funny about the polar bear!!LOL Um, maybe someone should suggest they get garbage pickup anyway!!LOL I think something like that happened in Newfoundland this past winter - I seem to recall an elderly lady came face to face with a polar bear when she tossed her garbage out the back door, yikes! Vixen: I didn't know that about bears. When I was a kid and we had a cottage in Ontario, we used to make a point of visiting the garbage dump "to see the bears!" during the day, or sometimes just after dinner. It was quite an experience for my brother and I to just sit in the car and watch them. Now, where I live in the east end of Maple Ridge, the bears have become so used to people, they are seen quite a lot at this time of year scouring garbage cans, etc., and I've spoken to quite a few people who have been out walking and had a bear come out from between 2 homes and they weren't the least bit bothered that someone was walking by on the sidewalk! That's the part that scares the c**p out of me, I think I'd faint if that happened to me!LOL |
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Jubbly - I'm sorry to hear about Doreen. I remember the name from many years ago. |
| Hey kids, just to let you know...... a lovely lady posted here about 10 years ago, whilst some of us were mentioning UK toilet paper. Doreen Meed happened apon the site and complained her head off about the topic and what it had to do with Corrie. I grabbed her LOL and she became a good friend. She just passed away. Thank you Sheila, for keeping this GB going. Without you, well.............. |
| I saw the news report about the bears. Smart little bugger, just opening up that car door. I have heard about Coyotes all through out the River Valley. Best story yet is that a friend of mine moved up to Tuktitiutuk ( spelled wrong) when her Hubby was transferred up there while in the military. In the wintertime they do not collect the garbage, so you just save it up until spring. It is so cold people just tie the big black garbage bags up and throw them in the back yard. So my friend did this and decided to aim the bag at this big white snow mound in her back yard. Well she hit the snow mound and was quite startled when the snow mound stood up, turned around and growled at her. It was a polar bear. !!. |
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Hey Jude, a bear sighting during the day is rare here but it's quite a populated area. Bears can be seen during the day in the mountains surrounding us, but not too many mingle with the population during daylight. We've also had a cougar or two venture close when they're hungry. They are very scary because they're such efficient hunters, very silent, skillful killers. Lots of raccoons, coyotes as well will come to town. I did see the video of the bear in Maple Ridge opening the truck door and was surprised to learn a bear could be so handy.
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*off topic* Hi Julie! Thanks for mentioning 'r(Detroit) Tigers! : D Around 10 years ago there were reports of an animal roaming around the suburbs, it was named a 'Liger'... a cross between a lion & tiger, there were supposed sightings of it, there were news crews looking for it and everything! but it was never found... so who knows what that was all about ??? kinda crazy! o . O |
| Love all the talk about bears, coyotes and wolves..reminds us, we live in Canada. Aye :) |
| Vixen: The bears don't show up when the sun is out? They do around here!LOL Only once have I seen a bear after dark and that was a year ago when they got into my neighbours garbage. |
| Sunita is supposed to have been born in 1978, making her 35. |
| In real life the actress who played Sunita was born in 1966 which makes her 46 but I am not sure how old Sunita was supposed to be. |
| Talking of people's ages, I think when Sunita died Dev told someone she was only 35!!! what? no way, more like 45 + |
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***SPOILER*** In the UK episodes, there are some early signs that Karl's guilt is going to be found out. After failing to convince the police to re-open the case, Dev gives up on them and decides to take matters into his own hands. He starts to do a lot of research and ask a lot of questions, which makes Karl very nervous. |
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KLS, In the old soap "Another World" Rachel's Jamie was born the same year as my Jamie. Before my Jamie was out of elementary school, Rachel's Jamie was already he was a doctor. Before my Jamie finished high school,the other was a granddad. My Jamie must have been very slow.LOL That's is one of the reasons I like Corrie, kids generally age correctly. I wish Karl will be found out soon. It's time to end this story line. |
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Welcome to the GB Cathy if you are new here. So right that paturnity takes years to come to light. I am still waiting for Steve to learn that Amy is not his. lol! Will have to keep waiting but if Ken can have a son & grandson turn up 50 years after conception anything is possible. Interesting info re the ages of Dev & Mary. Not surprised with Dev being close to 50 though is 'playboy persona' makes him seem younger but his life history (multiple lovers, 5 children, 1 or more grandchild) would require some time to achieve. Mary I figured to be in her mid to late 40's - zest for life, smooth complexsion etc. Where oh where is Mark, guessing ages is one of his many specialties. S O R A S, good one Kls. Thanks for the laugh!! |
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Gail: Thanks so much for posting that link! Selby: Take a look - that's the episode I was talking about, and yes, they are very likely to be living in the Don Valley!LOL |
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Gail: Yes, that's it Coywolves - they abound aplenty apparently, also in cottage country. Selby: There has been a study of these coywolves, and apparently they have and do roam around parkland areas of Toronto. There's also a group of them down by Cherry Beach. It was The Nature of Things with Dr. David Suzuki, and that man knows what he's talking about!LOL I haven't googled that particular episode, but I know what they filmed, and I was astounded to learn they live so close to people! |
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Regarding the Norris and Mary discussion, I still find it odd that they would bring in a 37 year old actress to be a love interest to a 73 year old man (and that was why she came into the show) - no matter how good a make up and wardrope department! Especially if she has moved on from Norris. Who will they pair her up with next as a love interest...it will be interesting to see how young (or old) he will be! I know that age doesn't really matter in the case of love, but I think we all believed she was a much older a character. I live in the west end of Hamilton and on a walk home from work one day I had to stop in my tracks when I spotted a fox only about 50 feet away from me on a construction site! I think I scared him with the look on my face more than he scared me! |
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The makeup and wardrobe people get a lot of credit for aging Mary, but the one circumstance that did it for me was her association with Norris. The writers paired her with Norris and so I always thought she'd be in his ballpark age-wise. I was gobsmacked when I read her DOB! I hope we're not going to find out that she "pulled a "Charo" and had 10 years removed from her birth date! LOL!! kls, I do enjoy the Miss Marple serires, too. It was great to see Pam Ferris who who has added the role of Sister Evangeline in Call the Midwife to the other list of great characters she's portrayed. . I was visited by the neighbourhood bear on Monday after I put my garbage out at 7:00 a.m. Usually the bears don't come around once the sun's up so I'll have to start putting out my cans much later. He came around the next morning, as well, right to the sport where my garbage can was sitting the previous day and I got a great photo -- from a distance! I'm concerned now because I've seen the bear twice during times when he's usually away from people. I live about 250 steps away from the local elementary school so it could be problematic. YIKES!!
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| Hey Jude, I saw part of that Nature of Things episode too. I think the wolf you're talking about is called a *Coywolf* and it is a hybrid, cross between a coyote and a wolf and they are apparently being seen more and more in large cities in central and eastern Canada. Above is a link to the program. I found it on CBC. |
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Plaid Cat: Oopps...How on earth did I mix those up? Yikes..LOL So You keep a look out then and can Hey Jude keep us informed. |
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| Hey Jude from BC: I live close to the Don Valley in Toronto and the last thing I want to hear is that there are wolves in Toronto. So I goggled the issue and found nothing. Good. |
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Plaid cat and KLS: I have a friend who lives in Glenora in Edmonton (not far from the Provincial Museum of Alberta, Plaid), and she saw a huge coyote not that long ago, just across the street from her house. There is nothing but woods and bush across the road from her, and she knows they are thriving in the river valley. I also saw the Nature of Things a few weeks ago, and coyotes and WOLVES have been seen strolling down the streets in Toronto, in fact, they showed one wolf at night, and he was checking out garbage cans while someone took a walk down a street. Others have said that near wooded areas in Toronto, 1 particular wolf is seen constantly. Well I'm certainly glad I wasn't the only one who thought Mary, or the actress, is much younger than I thought she is!LOL |
| OMG, I almost fell off my chair when I read here that Mary is only 37. Early 50's would have been my guess. Shows what the wardrobe and make-up departments can do to a character. |
| Plaid Cat - worst of coyotes is that they can and will happily live in a city. They can make a good living from garbage cans and straying pets. The population is so high, not all blame can fall on the city. Coyotes and raccoons are the exception to the rule of us intruding on wildlife in that they actually do move into cities and happily survive and multiply; you just never see them that often. Our population seems to have dwindled a bit, last one I saw was rather mangy looking so I suspect that killed some off. Bears are rather scary things - they move about 10 times faster than you think they can. No bears here, just cougars and wolves and the fish and game people insist there are none despite vets putting in reports about cat and wolf injuries and kills in this area. Have seen the wolves bounding down my road one night several winters back and just a few years ago, was a big cat in the field, watching the horses with more interest than I thought prudent; carried a rifle all that summer. Saw cat tracks at my cousin's as well.....was prowling around his house and screaming at night. Scared him half to deatn. |
| Julie, it is Hey Jude that has the bears wandering around her town, but yes Hey Jude, do keep us informed. In Edmonton, because of all the clearing of land, we have been having a lot of sightings/encounters with Coyotes. Last year I was on the bus heading downtown and saw a huge one just a trucking down 97 St. The bus was stopped for a red light. No fear...it had its eye on a poodle . Poodle saw Coyote and did get away. I have also seen them on Yellowhead Trail, sitting on the side of the highway. It struck me odd that The Rovers almost looks the same, which is good, since I do not think they wanted any drastic changes. But The Rovers is over 50 years old, where did they get the exact same stained glass for the booths.? Even a used Dart Board.!! ( could have sprung for a new one.....) |
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I do like the scenes with Mary and Dev too. I don't think that there will be any romance, but I think that Mary will become very attached and turn all Cathy and Heathcliff on us again.Yes, she hasn't kidnapped anyone in a while! Vixen13: Thanks for posting their ages...That's a shocker...I honestly would have put her 10 to 15 years older than him. Plaid Cat: Keep us informed about the bears. I saw that news story too. We don't get too many bears in and around the Windsor/Detroit area...Just Tigers...(That was for you Vera ;) |
| I meant to add to my previous post, I put the link to Patty Clare's imdb page above the post and above here too! |
| kls,I love the Mulberry series. It's quirky and very original isn't it! I too was very surprised that Patty Clare is 37. She wouldn't be too happy to know that we all thought she was more like late 40's or 50! But obviously they have her made up to look more mature with the matronly clothes. We'd probably be surprised if we saw her in real life! She's a wonderful actress! Like Mary or not, she's a character with lots of potential IMO. She could go either way LOL I always wondered why she was so obsessed with Norris of all men! I looked her up on imdb and there is a nice picture of her there, looking much younger than she looks when in character. Also quite a long list of credits. I couldn't find much on youtube but there are some pictures of her arriving at the soap awards looking very glamorous. |
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Hey Jude..Doc Martin will never be passe to me..I love it and him! Vixen..I'll have to re-watch that scene..I thought Beth Fell. Lynn..I too feel Dev's acting has improved OR TPTB are not telling him HOW to act. and yes loved seeing Bob Newhart on TBBT..Bob has always been one of my fav. comedians. Great timing. |
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I missed the early showing yesterday and finally found a midnight showing and fell asleep........GRRRRRRRRRRR (was sick Thursday so it's understandable) I'm liking the Dev/Mary scenes. She seems to get through to him where no one else can. OFF TOPIC Worst case of SORAS (Soap opera rapid aging syndrome) was Jamie Frame on Another World. If I recall, he went to camp or maybe school and disappeared for a couple of months and came back as a doctor - went from adolescent to late twenties pretty danged fast. Watched Marple last night....like this version because of Geraldine McEwan and I first discovered her in a show called Mulberry. Last night's cast included Niamh Cusack (Kate Rowan from Heartbeat) and Pam Ferris (Aunt Marge from Harry Potter and Laura Thyme from Rosemary & Thyme). |
| Vixen: Wow, I was SO wrong when I said last night Mary was way too old for Dev! Gail: Yes, that's pretty scary how that bear did that so easily. In the news item, they said several cars had been vandalized in recent weeks in that area, and now it may seem it wasn't just humans doing the vandalizing!!LOL Well I have curtailed the long walks for now and am using my elliptical, there are just too many bears out there right now, now that they've come out of hibernation and looking for food. People putting their garbage cans out the night before pickup is another huge no-no that the newspapers are always reminding people about, but the day I saw those 2 bears across the road, one of them stood on his hind legs and was reaching up for some berries in a patch berry bushes. The video we saw was a young bear, he wasn't very big at all. The one I saw the other day stood well over 6ft tall when on his hind legs - pretty scary! I meant to say, yes, it would be great if it was found out the baby is Tommy's afterall! |
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I thought Mary was older than Dev! It must be her clothes! Malcolm Hebden was born March 1940, making him 73. Not sure how old Norris is supposed to be on the show, but Mary was so infatuated with him...that would be a huge age gap! |
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hi Shirley & Lisa ~ Yes, I saw that regarding Beth! I 'think' she lost her balance and fell back... maybe it was her platform shoes‼? ; ) It looked like she landed in the booth (?) but I'd have to re-watch. Remember a few weeks ago when she was walking the cobbles, it looked as if she could break an ankle in those shoes?... I D K! but it was odd the pub scene kept moving along without any reaction at all : \ ! |
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It's refreshing to see such a universally positive reaction to Dev and Mary on the GB, but most seem to agree that Mary fits the bill as housekeeper/nanny more than femme fatale. However, a character is usually portrayed as being close to the age of the actor and this was a bit of a shock. Jimmi Harkishin (Dev Alahan) was born in 1965 which makes him 48; Patti Clare (Mary Taylor) was born in 1976 and is 37 years old. So, Mary is about 11 year younger than Dev but her matronly demeanour and shape belie her age. I was surprised to say the least!
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| Hey Jude, I saw the bear story on the news too and when they said it was in Maple Ridge I thought of you and your recent bear experiences! Be careful when you're out walking! Those guys are getting very bold aren't they. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that bear opening the car door like he knew exactly what he was doing! That's quite amazing! Just hope they don't learn to open house doors. Be sure to keep your door locked. Good god, you don't want to find one in your living room! I would imagine that residents are feeling a little on edge about it all although many of them might be used to living with bears around and not bothered at all. I also think that the baby will turn out to be Tommy's. Wouldn't a paternity test be standard procedure in a case like this, just to set the record straight after the child is born? It's easy enough to do it. I saw that scene where Beth makes one of her in your face type comments to Chesney and as Kirk walks past he sort of gives her a nudge and she sits down in the booth. She didn't fall or faint although I can see how it looked that way. I rewound it and you could clearly see that she was nudged and sat down fast. |
| Loved Sally's drunken comments in the Rovers to Norris - You're a nasty little bald elf and to Steve when he asks her to sit down with him) You know what you are? You're a nice bald elf. I really the whole progression of Sally in this episode. |
| Daphne: The exact location of that bear opening the truck door isn't known, but they def said it was Maple Ridge, am guessing that lady who took the video lives on an acerage and there are tonnes of them here. |
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Daphne: Yes I saw that news item with the bear, and it took place right here in Maple Ridge where I live!LOL In fact last week 2 bears were sauntering around the property across the road from me, and my son was on the bus coming home from work, and a black bear was lounging himself on someones front lawn! The bus driver stopped and pointed it out to the passengers! We have a lotta bears here!LOL Monique: Thankyou for telling me the actresses name! Lynn: Yes, I saw that episode not long ago, and it's funny because right before that came on, I had been watching a very old episode of The Bob Newhart Show (from the 70's). He was excellent in the Disney cartoon movie The Rescuers from Down Under (one of my kids' faves when they were little). I was thrilled to see him on TBBT, and wish they'd get William Shatner on there as well!LOL |
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You lot are making me nervous to post - you all have your mind in the gutter:-) However, I will soldier on regardless!! What a good idea! The baby to be Tommy's. That would allow Izzy and Gary to break up and Tommy would be fed to the teeth because he didn't support Tina through the pregnancy. Of course they would probably have to pay the money back but as this is Corrie I'm sure the money would fall from a tree somewhere into their hands. Mind you she deserves the money as compensation for the way they have commandeered her life. I'm surprised she doesn't scream every time they appear on the horizon. I know *I* want to scream! I am enjoying Mary with Dev too but I don't see her and Dev as a couple. She is not Hindu and I think that matters to Dev. Also although she is the voice of reason and it appears the only voice of comfort at this time, she still has some irritating mannerisms which would be difficult to live with. Of course if the personality change fairy is around she could get that swatted out of her. I see her more in the roll of permanent housekeeper cum nanny for the family. Dev is seeing a side of Mary that no one else has seen and will probably get annoyed if anyone makes fun of her. Did any of you see the footage last night of the bear opening up the door of a vehicle and checking out for goodies? Priceless! It was in Vancouver somewhere, where they are building on previous bear habitat. Hmm! Now did I say anything that could be twisted???? |
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Hey Jude, I believe Mavis was played by Thelma Barlow. I think it's too soon for Dev to find a new girlfriend. He has to go through the grieving process first. I really like the way the reopening of the Rovers was done. It wasn't merely a pub reopening but it was a very sentimental scene that showed how much the community is united and how much the pub, the centre of their community, means to them. With Gary and Tina constantly meeting each other to talk about how much the attempted kiss meant nothing, someone, including Izzy, was bound to overhear them. Each time they meet to talk about it they increase the chances of that happening. I'm glad it's out in the open but I feel bad for Izzy. |
| Yes, sorry I did mean Beth's son, Craig...memory lapses, I know them well as I have demonstrated. I am glad that the kiss incident is out in the open too. Izzy knows the truth and can run away taking her father, sister and a few Windasses with her. I know that many have never liked Dev but I find him one of the better drawn characters and his acting has improved. I think that Mary as the nanny and Dev could have some good scenes. Mary has been good as the babysitter so far. Leeann does look good with her hair cut. And shall we assume we have christened the floor of the Rovers with the impending birth? The words uttered by so many mothers comes to mind as Tina bent over,if something new is messed up "can't have anything nice around here". Bob Newhart is one of my absolute favourites. Anyone see him as the tv science guy from Sheldon's childhood on BBT? Funny, Bob still has it. |
| Vixen: Thanks for clearing that up - I remember now thinking at the time it was just someone sliding into the booth and that makes a lot more sense now, thanks! |
| Oh! I forgot to mention: I saw "Mavis" on Doc Martin last night! I didn't recognize her at first, but it was the voice, then I realized it was def her. She has grown her hair out and it was in a bun. I know the episode I saw is a few years old now, but I am loving Doc Martin, even if it might be passé to some here. Can't think of her real name though and I missed the credits. She still has the same voice and inflections and her facial expressions haven't changed, she was great in that episode! |
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Annette, Shirley, and Lisa, I was curious about what happened to Beth, too, and so I YouTubed the episode and watched that little bit a few times. It appears as tho' she merely slid into the nearest booth with her drink after she threatened Chesney. All in a day's work for Beth!
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| Gail: I like your scenario about Dev and Mary - she could misinterpret something he says to her, thinking that Dev would like to get together with her and then he has to reject her! Loved your expression "Mary-ish"!LOL So true, great idea - maybe you've given the writers an idea?!LOL |
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Cathy....hmm..you're right..Tina carrying Tommy's baby would throw a twist in the story for sure! and yes, could have been possible. Shirley & Lisa..I saw someone standing at the bar fall, coulda been Beth. Wonder too if it was an accident that got through editing. Haili..I'm just glad too that the Rovers have re-opened and a blessing I no longer have to suffer Leanne's misery face every time there's a Bistro scene. Gail...I like the old eppies of Heartbeat also, I'm just tired of them and would like to move Forward finally. Maybe it's time they drop it completely and try for another program altogether. There's Lots of British series we would love to see instead. |
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Shirley and Lisa: Yes I saw that as well and wondered what was up with that too. Well at least the picture Rita gave Stella didn't have Landlady of the Rovers written on the bottom!LOL |
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I am getting tired of Karl getting away with murder. I am surprised that the police weren't smart enough in the beginning to go through her belongings and realize there was an extra set of keys. I am dying to see the look on Stella and her mother's face when they realize it was Karl that did it. But let's get on with it and move on to something else. Also, if you want my opinion (and I know nobody asked for it but here it is) I think they are going to find out that the baby is actually Tommy's. He and Tina were still together up to and even after she got pregnant. And I am sure they were still intimate during that time. Of course in true soap oper fashion, it will probably take years for that to come to light. |
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I vaguely remember Dev. telling a girlfriend years ago that he would only marry a woman of the same religion. Where are all the mothers of his other kids? He could marry one of them and get a whole new family eg. Amber's mother. Did he lose those other stores in the economic downturn? I don't care that the Rovers opening was rushed; I'm just glad that it's open again. |
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Quote: Lisa from Apohaqui (at 24.150.186.21) wrote on June 8, 2013, 00:22: -- That was a bit unbelievable, the Rovers open and everything fixed up in it, right down to the curtains and wallpaper and flowers in vases in the back room. You are so right, Lisa, but I would say completely unbelievable. e.g. A keg of beer delivered, needs time to settle, otherwise the beer would be too frothy. The beer would have to have been delivered that morning after Owen etc working all night. It's just a story, though. |
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SPOILER ALERT Did anyone else notice Kirk's girlfriend faint or at least fall standing at the Rover's bar? Nothing was done about it and maybe it happened in real life and we weren't supposed to see it. I wonder what was up with that? I don't want Izzy to leave Gary over the mistake with Tina, but know it portends trouble about Tina giving the baby to them, etc.
It's my nature to want to fix things in life. That being said I'm not that good in fixing my own life as I can only be responsible for myself and don't seem to be able to make others change things in their life.
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| **Off Topic** I remember watching Y&R about 15 - 16 yrs back, maybe longer. Young Nick Newman was 9 or 10 yrs old. He went upstairs after school and 3 months later came down 20 yrs older. This has happened only once on Corrie when they traded Sarah in for an older model when she was about to get pregnant. Well the mystery of Betty's photo got solved. Don't know what she was doing with an exact copy of the photo, but I wont complain. Just hope Stella gives the photo an honored spot. !!. I also think that Mary is a good influence on Dev right now, she takes good care of him and the kids. Cant see them as a couple but still like their scenes together. I would like to see Dev find a girlfriend, but cant think of anyone on the street that he would be good with. I guess they will have to introduce a new character for him to be with. |
| Funny, all his talk about matching up Dev. For a while in the UK episode tonight (Friday) I thought they were going to push Dev and Sally together, although the story then seemed to go in another direction. Now that would be an interesting match-up, don't you think? Any other UK watchers think that for a while, or was it just me? |
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Honestly, I can't visualize Mary and Dev getting romantic, but she seems to be giving him what he needs at the moment and she is glowing while she's doing it. Thank heaven her comforting doesn't include any bedroom routines. As far as unlikely couples go, I thought Stella and Jason were completely mismatched, but he seemed totally twitterpated right up until and even after she broke his heart by rejecting him for Karl. Cupid works in very mysterious ways.
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| Just a little bit to add to my last post. I wonder if they plan to have Mary be rejected by Dev when she gets too *Mary-ish* as she is known to do. Maybe she will make a pass or profess her feelings and Dev will have to reject her which might result in her taking some kind of drastic action, like kidnapping or something?? Would they do that? Anything's possible! |
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Annette, I think TVO is just rerunning Heartbeat over from various points in the early original series. I wish they would keep going instead of switching back to the beginning again but they probably haven't got the rights to do that anymore. You know how these things go! It's such a great series though, and I loved the early years best of all. Dev and Mary. Hmmmm, interesting if they were to decide to put them together. I'd like to see it! It's so unlikely. Dev always liked beautiful young women and almost always Asian, although when we first met him he was involved with barmaid Gina. That seems like eons ago! Didn't they almost get married? Mary isn't his type but he's older now and Mary does have a very positive effect on him and the twins. She's taking care of them and Dev needs that kind of comfort right now. The new producer just might have decided to have them get together! It's a pretty bold move but I would like to see it happen. |
| Annette: I can't see Dev and Mary romantically involved, but I've been wrong before. I just don't think it'll happen, at least I hope it doesn't. Besides, Mary is way too old for Dev IMHO!LOL No offence to anyone out there BTW! |
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Vixen..hmm, never thought of Mary & Dev together. It would be odd but yet again they are both a wee bit odd..Mary more than Dev. Don't know if his religion would go for that??? **off Topic** Heartbeat tonight took us back to Christmas when Kate was preggers and alive. Jeez..don't tell me we're going backwards again or worse still..starting over. How many times will that be for us 3..4 times?? |
| Vixen: I agree with you guys too - Mary seems to have a calming effect on Dev, and that takes a lot! In the old days he would have screeched that since she hasn't had kids, she wouldn't know what she's talking about, but he's still feeling grief over Sunita and Mary seems to be what Dev needs right now, TVOR (Sorry Diane, I couldn't resist!)LOL Can't wait for Monday's show! |
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Annette, Pearl and Chrissy, I'm in total agreement with the trio of you. Mary has become a calm voice of reason and support for Dev and his kids. She seems to know what they need and provides it. And what's more, Dev is taking her seriously, listening to her suggestions and getting positive results. It's a counterintuitive pairing, but it seems to work. I'd like to see more.
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| I also liked Mary and Dev tonight and wonder which road the writers will take them down. I wouldn't mind seeing her and Dev and the kids together sometime in the future...they could be a good little family! Mary is definitely much nicer now that she's away from nasty Norris! |
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Leah -***Off topic*** You brought me back great memories of the old Newhart Show. You will of course remember one gimick that the two Daryl brothers never spoke, just Larry. That was of course until the final episode, when to everyones surprise, they spoke. Bob asked Larry why they had never spoke before, so Larry consulted with them and Larry said: "They say they just had nothing to say until now." lol. I think that's how it went. I'm going to have to try to find it on youtube now. Well at least after the hockey game. |
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Pearl..I too enjoyed Dev & Mary's conversation tonight, she is very level-headed at times..yet we know there is a little problem of her stepping over to the dark side. LOL TerryM.. I meant Sarah. I saw my error but knew you'd figure it out. thnx Lynn..Can't stand ANYTHING about Gary at this point. I'm glad Izzy knows everything now and kicks his ar$e outta town! and I BEG the PTB ..do Not let Gary deliver the baby. He will see it as an Omen. *good grief* |
| As my Mom would say Lisa, it's just a show, it's not real so they can do that and that's the only reason! LOL Chrissy, I agree. Sometimes Izzy looks gorgeous and then there are other times when she's a bit dishevelled but again, that's realistic when you think about it! We all have our good and bad hair days! I wonder about some of the strange outfits that Izzy wears but I realize that they're trying to give her character a unique flair of her own with the clothing. |
| Hi Gayle, I also watch Emdale and compare it with Corrie. Although they both have around 70 characters, Em seems to have more of them with storylines that intertwine on the go at any one time. That makes of less character overload which Corrie does with Stella imo. What I don't like on Em is so few of the characters are likeable & those who are are on the dense or gulible side. Most of Corrie characters have some redeeming qualities. Enjoyed the scenes with Dev & Mary on today's epi. Also like the Rob/Tracy duo, the dance of 2 snakes but I think Carla is just bidding her time with them and will find out what they are up to. |
| I agree, it was a bit unbelievable having the Rovers open for business so fast but it was nice to see everyone in there instead of the Bistro! I don't want to sound mean and horrible but I do wish Izzy would go to Audrey's and get a 'nice' hairdo and I'm glad she knows now about the kiss that never happened. Rob and Tracy are on thin ice...it won't take Carla long to find out what really happened. Way to go Carla! |
| Where was Emily tonight? She would have been right there with Norris, so I wonder if the actress is ill or just on vacation since we haven't seen her for ages. Or did I miss her? |
| That was a bit unbelievable, the Rovers open and everything fixed up in it, right down to the curtains and wallpaper and flowers in vases in the back room. |
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TerryM: LOL. I guess Tina will christen the Rovers after all! I do wonder why none of the Corrie women ever go to hospital in a car - except for Sally when she delivered Rosie in one - but it would lack drama if they did the normal thing. I wonder who will deliver this one. I don't know anyone who had to call an ambulance as there is usually lots of time to get to hospital. Mary is becoming the voice of reason lately. What a turnaround from the crazy lady she used to be! I thought Leanne looked nice with the new hair do. |
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Sharon, maybe you're referring to Larry, Daryl and Daryl from the old Newhart show. You might recall, "Hi, I'm Larry. This is my brother Daryl and this is my other brother Daryl."
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| Terry: Naw, it's not a new low! If you hadn't said it, someone else probably would have!!LOL (still giggling here)! :) |
| Yes - I think I reached a new low with that attempt at humor. Apologies for twisting your words Daphne! |
| Hey Jude, Terry M - my thoughts exactly! |
| Terry: Oh my God, I was just thinking that too, but wasn't going to post it!!LOL |
| Daphne - If Gary delivers the baby, it won't be Tina's face that he's in. :-) |
| Lynn, I think that breathlessness is Gary trying to be sexy LOL and it ain't workin' for me! |
| Darryl is actually Beth's son Craig's pet rat. |
| Lynne - I hate when I get these memory lapses - but who is Darryl on the street right now? I can't for the life of me put to mind a Darryl...except Darryl Morton...you don't mean Craig do you? |
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I am always intrigued at the way we all have different takes on the stories on Corrie. I for one am finding the Rob/Tracy scam story intriguing after the terminal boredom of Anna/Owen/Faye/Gary/Katy - that family is way too large. Looking forward to the birth but praying that Gary is not on hand to deliver the child. This could be a problem seeing he is forever in Tina's face. |
| I remember the old soaps or as so many, including my aunts, referred to them as "their stories" as others have pointed out. Anyone else remember in the early days of "The Guiding Light" (which moved from radio to tv - my aunt followed it on radio then tv) was 15 minutes at 12:30 (Ontario time) followed by "The Secret Storm" or vice versa, but each were only 15 minutes until they went to 1/2 hr then years later an hour later. I remember having lunch with my mother while she watched "the stories". I later got hooked on "The Edge of Night" (on after school) which she watched, then "Another world" which she did not. And I also think we are in a lull which I am sure will end and all H*$$ will break loose. Not liking the Rob/Tracy evil duo, I am sick to death of Tracy and the evil persona. I could never imagine demanding of my family what Rob does of his sister and Tracy of her family. It would be nice to see something new and different happen -- like Kirkie, Beth and Darryl do something, they could be a fun family presence on the street. I am tired of the surrogacy and the kiss that wasn't and watching Gary be intense and brooding. I cannot stand they way he speaks, ever notice he sounds like he sounds breathless after every sentence? |
| With the complaints about the time give to the Windasses and Owen I think it is time to say something about my earlier concerns with Katy's ability to handle being the "star" for a short time period. As far as I am concerned she (the actress) can't do it (yet?). The acting is too often missing any authenticity and Katy isn't staring . Too often Chesney is the major player and he never has been a "rock star" despite being a nice guy apparently. Maybe next time she gets a chance there will be a better job done after this experience. |
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OFF TOPIC - but funny! There used to be a cigarette commercial with a jingle that went "You can take Salem out of the country but you can't take the country out of Salem" I asked my Dad why can't you take the country out of Salem?...his reply...well Sharon, the Latin word for country is Melas, which is Salem spelled backword. Also, my parents bought me a little wallet and at that time they had slots to put pictures in. They always had sample pictures in them. When I saw a picture of a lovely lady I asked my Dad who she was - he said "that's your Aunt Mitzi from Hollywood" I went to school and told my class that Mitzi Gaynor was my Aunt...ahhh good memories of simpler times! |
| Gail: Too funny what your Mom told you! I don't ever remember even questioning stuff like that - maybe I did but don't remember. I just remember the opening scene to The Secret Storm - waves crashing on some huge rocks and the dramatic music!LOL |
| Too funny Gail. I love the explanations parents give inquisitive minds! |
| LOL Oh Sharon, that's right, my Mom also called it *my stories* now that you mention it, not *my show*! DUH She also watched *The Secret Storm* and I remember being very young, maybe even a fetus at the time ;), and there was a storyline about a girl being pregnant and unmarried. I asked my Mom how that could be possible if she wasn't married and my Mom's answer was *Well it's just a show, it's not real and that's the only reason*. LOL Nice try Mom! I think that explanation really did stick with me as I find myself using it too quite often. ;) |
| It's that way on many dramas Gayle. :) If the villain is caught right away there would be no show LOL Look how long John Stape got away with his antics. Having said that, there is such a thing as it taking too long, no question. The crux of it all is to make it interesting during the time between the deed and the justice which I feel they did excellently with the John Stape storyline. |
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Shirley - ***Spoiler*** Tina will have the baby in Monday's CBC ep. Annette - (Just to clarify) When you say 'Tina' you must mean Tina O'Brien who played Sarah Platt, not our present pregnant Tina. |
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Leah, like you I'm finding I don't look forward to Corrie as much as I used to. However, I've been a fan for over 30 years I continue to watch out of loyalty. In my opinion the show is focusing way, way too much on the Windass's and Stella and her gang. I really hope those boring storylines wrap up and some interesting storylines develop. Unfortunately, I am watching Emmerdale on Youtube and it has some really interesting storylines going on right now. Having said that though they also have a character who has murdered two people and has so far not been caught! |
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Gail and Sharon: I also remember my Aunt calling soaps "my stories"!LOL I remember as a very young 4 year old my Mother tuning in to The Edge of Night and The Secret Storm!!LOL Dating myself here I know!LOL Gail: And then later Carol Burnett would do those skits on her show As the Stomach Churns or something like that!!LOL Good times, good times!!LOL |
| I remember my friends mothers calling soaps "my stories" |
| Haili, I remember good old *As The Stomach Turns* LOL My Mom watched it for years. I remember as a kid home sick with my own stomach turning with the flu and laying on the couch watching it with her. She would be so into it and I didn't dare speak or ask for a drink or anything until it was over LOL She would call it *my show*. LOL |
| Many years ago as a young housewife, I watched As the World Turns. The son of one of the main characters grew up and became a doctor at the age of 7. Everyone on those shows at the time were either doctors, lawyers or multi millionaires; that was why I got hooked on Corrie, because the people were like regular people and the situations were realistic. I also liked the way they all looked out for each other and were so down to earth. |
| Oh that's so true Hey Jude. Another thing they're famous for on the US soaps is aging the children! I think for every year on a soap a child ages 7 years LOL Sort of like a dog's age! |
| I remember being fed up with Corrie at the time Tracy had Amy and named Steve as the father and no one questioned that. I think that was around the time of the Tracy/Roy storyline which I found bizarre. So I decided to stop watching for a while but it did not last. I have been watching for about 30 years so it is just simply a part of my life. Even though I am not enjoying too much about the show right now, I keep tuning in and probably always will. |
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Leah: I don't know what you can do about it, but I'm very much like Gail - I will watch, even through some of the boring bits, and even those boring bits don't really bother me. I always know it always picks up later on. Like Gail, I cannot really imagine giving up on Corrie altogether. Faye and Tim are the only 2 giving me grief right now too!!LOL Gail: Good point about the 9 month realistic timeline for pregnancy, and I give Corrie Kudos for doing that. I remember way back in the day, especially on American soaps, a woman got pregnant, and a month later she was having the baby - so ridiculous! |
| Leah: Persevere - it does get better. I watch the UK episodes on YouTube and things are getting more interesting with what seems some unusual twists to certain stories - even Stella wears something colored instead of her usual head to toe beige! |
| I forgot to add, before long there will be a storyline that everyone will embrace (I hope so anyway!) and then the offending storylines will be all but forgotten. I can't say I have ever wanted to stop watching Corrie. It's such a part of my life and routine that I'm always eager to see the next episode and more than willing to just ride out any storylines that are boring me. Right now I'm finding them all holding my interest with the exception of Faye and Tim. |
| Babies do take nine months to come to full term so here again, Corrie is being realistic. Do we expect them to condense a pregnancy for convenience sake ? ;) They usually get in trouble with us for doing things like that. ;) LOL *tongue in cheek* Tina will give birth prematurely and I believe it's going to happen in the very near future! |
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TerryM..thanx for the explanation. I did remember the probs between Tina & Todd and Gail way back but I thought that was all forgotten (as usual) when Tina fell for Jason. Todd returned to the street for a visit a wee while back and although Gail did take a jab at him (verbally) I don't remember it being anything more than that. I would imagine after all these years, Gail woulda moved on to other things..like David, Kylie, Nick and NEW baby. Leah...sorry to hear you are so disgruntled with the way the show is going. I have taken a break from the show in the past, especially in the summer when it was on at 3pm. When I returned it was all good again.:) |
| Leah; Corrie has been dull lately. The Windasses and Owen, etc. have taken over the show. The only reason I watch lately is that there's nothing else on and I live in hope. The baby has to come eventually; it can't go on forever. Tina is leaving sometime in the next year and so is Karl so things will have to move on soon. The Rovers will be opening one of these days and maybe things will improve after that. I find that Corrie slows down a lot in summer and then livens up in the fall but they are early with their slowness this year! |
| Help, I'm having an apathy attack! Due to moving and not being able to use the internet for over a week I've missed quite a few episodes of Corrie. (Don't have cable any more, I watch on youtube.) In the good old days I probably couldn't have waited to catch up. Now I'm finding it hard to get onto youtube and watch the missed eppies. More Karl, more surrogacy, more Eileen moaning about Paul's job, too much Tracy (one second of her is too much for me). I'm not sure I want to leave forever but just can't get motivated to watch. Has anyone else ever felt like this? If so, what did you do? |
| Pronouncing St.John as Sinjon is just one of those quirks, like Featherstonehaugh is Fanshaw and Arkansas is Arkinsaw, Leominster is Lemster and Worcester is Wooster etc. It makes life interesting:-) |
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Hi all, thank you for the update re: Todd. When does Tina have her baby?
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Annette - Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia from one of Todd's storylines that should help answer your question as why Gail will not be happy to see him return: During autumn 2002, Sarah becomes rebellious, splitting with her boyfriend Todd Grimshaw (Bruno Langley) and moving on to a mischievous romance with troublemaker, Aiden Critchley, who introduces her joyriding and crashes their car, leaving Sarah comatose with severe head injuries. She manages to survive and dumps Aiden, disgusted that he had left her for dead in the wreckage. Sarah gets back together with Todd in early 2003 and they begin to share a flat, which causes great difficulties between mother and daughter. To Gail's horror, Sarah uncovers her pregnancy again, aged 16. She is doubtful whether to have their child but is convinced by Todd. Against the wishes of their families, they get engaged; however, unbeknownst to Sarah, Todd is struggling with his emerging homosexual feelings and begins a secret fling with nurse Karl Foster (Chris Finch), behind Sarah's back. When Sarah finds out, she suffers a placental abruption, and is given an emergency caesarean. Her extremely ill son, Billy, dies soon after birth. Sarah blames Todd and refuses to allow him to attend their son's funeral. |
| I agree with Pearl from B.C. that Rob and Tracy would not get 20,000 pounds for the silk. They'll be lucky to get 5,000 pounds. Also, perhaps it would be the wrong colour and unsellable. |
| Oh me oh my, I've got today's episode to watch and I feel like I'm slogging through mud. I don't think I've ever felt this bad. Watch it I will though, because somehow it's got to pick up. I haven't given up the faith yet. |
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Hi Jackie...from what I remember about Dr. Who, each eppie is totally different with totally different actors..so it would be norm that Bruno (todd) would have only played one eppie. And just for extra interest, Bruno played on live stage with Bev Collard (Liz Mac) Haili..I must be forgetting something...why would Gail be upset at the return of Todd to the street? Thought it ridiculous Ryan and Katey staying when they realized Chesney & new gal were in the Bistro...and sitting right across from each other. Ches has a looong way to go in the sweet talking department. Tina is FINALLY realizing that the Surrogate Team are all over her...something that Tommy figured out months ago! Just gotta say though..she really has a nasty disposition at times for such a pretty girl. Hail...About Mark..what I gather is, he finds cooking/eating his supper by 6:30 too rushed and he may only be recording/watching Corrie on Sunday mornings for the time being..but I could be wrong. |
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why is "John" called "John" and not JIN? I'm confused! The answer to that is......it just is. |
| I recall watching a British series years ago where there was a character whose name was *Sin Jin* pronounced just as they pronounce it on Corrie and I remember thinking what a strange name it was. I didn't realize it was actually derived from St. John! Kind of nice actually, it has a very masculine ring to it. It's very original. |
| Did anyone hear Carla say to Peter, "what, have you got a Tracy Barlow in-built lie detector"!? I think she meant "built-in"!LOL Too funny! |
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Did as you suggested Gail, checked Bruno Langley on IMDB. Besides at Doctor Who apearance he has been involved in theatre productions, persumidly in London. His acting skills should not be rusty and since living in Manchester now, Corrie should be a good fit. Wonder after today's epi if Chesney is to become the new tear-a-way teen. It will be a stretch for him to achieve David Platt style but will wait and see. |
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Where are Mark, Mookie and Henri these days? Have they all deserted us? The s. gang were their usual annoying selves tonight and seem to be everywhere. It's as if they follow Tina around. Owen is annoyed because Tina quit one minute and complaining because she looks tired the next. Poor Chesney doesn't seem to have a clue how to deal with women and I hope he doesn't turn to booze as he's doing more and more these days. Peter has a built in lie detector; well it takes one to know one! |
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As people on the GB explained to me, St. John is pronounced SIN JIN. Given that, why is "John" called "John" and not JIN? I'm confused!
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Yes, Todd (Bruno)did leave and go on Dr. Who. I started watching it just because he was on it. But I only saw him on one episode. Don't know if that was the intention to be only one episode or not. Enjoyed seeing Sally and the girls the other day. I also liked Fiz and Ches together. |
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Robin, yes Roy's father's name was St. John, and Sinjin is a contraction/short form for that name. See all the stuff you learn on here. |
| Not sure if I missed any postings on this topic. Why do they call Roy's father SIN GIN (that's what is sounds like to me). Is SIN GIN's real first name St. John? I have never heard of anyone with that as the first name. Would be interested to hear comments. Thanks |
| Pearl I remember hearing that Bruno was on the new Dr. Who series after he left Corrie but I'm not sure if that was just a short gig or not. If you check his IMDB page it should have his credits listed there. |
| If Todd and Marcus get together it will be pretty uncomfortable in Elieen's house with Sean still living there. Todd could cause a lot of upheaval on the street. Eileen and Gail will be at loggerheads again and Audrey won't be happy if Marcus dumps Maria. It's another writers' gold mine! |
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This week I stumbled on some Corrie episodes from 2008 while on youtube. One was an early scene of Gary and Len doing a breakin at what looked like a wearhouse. What a change in Gary from those early days!! Yes the influence of director plus experience learned by the actor makes a difference. Agree that Dev's acting has improved lately, maybe the new producer told him smarten up or leave. Interesting news that Bruno Langley (Todd) will be returning to Corrie. Wonder how he will do as I think he as been away from acting since he left over 5 years ago. Could be wrong but read somewhere he has been working in the food industry. The silk that Rob & Tracy stole may have cost Underworld 20 grand but might be worth less on the blackmarket. Why could a scammer pay full price? Re Rob being a X-con there was some discussion when he first arrived on the street that he was covering up for some misdeed of their mother. It would be interesting to learn more of Carla & Rob's past as it seems their's was a disfunctional household which makes them a perfect fit with the street. lol. |
| I also read that Beverly Callard is returning to reprise the Liz MacDonald character! I was away for a couple of weeks so this may have already been discussed here. I would like to see Liz back, I always liked her. Todd I could take or leave. I wonder if they'll get a love triangle going between Todd, Marcus and Sean? I don't expect that Maria and Marcus are going to last long and we haven't seen Maria in ages. TerryM, I wouldn't hold your breath for that to happen! LOL |
| I wonder if Todd and Marcus will get together? |
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I've just read an article -- link below -- that indicates Bruno Langley (Todd Grimshaw) will be returning to Coronation Street with the show bosses promising that "Todd's presence on the street will mean heartache for more than one Corrie resident". It sounds as if the character is moving back to the cobbles from London, so it's more than just a guest appearance. Interesting that the new bosses are bringing back some of the characters from the hey day of the programme. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-06-05/coronation-street-bruno- langley-to-return-as-todd-grimshaw?ref=Article.RelatedNews |
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Gail - ....and hopefully they will have had enough sense to leave off the 'landlady' caption! Annette - In Canada, we'll see the re-opening of the Rovers tomorrow (Friday). |
| Kudos to the writers for thinking ahead and making sure that Rita has a copy of Betty's portrait. Otherwise *how could that picture have survived the fire?* would have taken up a good deal of this guestbook space LOL Let's give them credit where credit is due. Makes for a refreshing change! ;) |
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Rob is an ex con and is now acting like one. My thoughts are that he will try to steal enough and in the process sabotage Carla's orders and their delivery on time. Meanwhile he will be soft soaping the buyers and when he has enough money he will take over their custom and Carla will be back where she was a bit ago. Always assuming he can stop Tracy spending it all of course. Rob has a giant ego which I hope will bring about his downfall but Carla's guilt over her youthful ambition makes her an easy target. She doesn't want to believe he would rook her and she will probably be blindsided. I have gone right off Rob and seeing Tracy all over him at the breakfast table made me want to barf. Thankfully it is an interesting diversion from the Tina Gary Katy et al saga. |
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Jeannie - no worries! I don't really know why I posted it at all as it has nothing in common with the Gary/Tina storyline. It was just on my mind. I thought it was kind of funny. I probably should have worded it differently. I appreciate any replies to my posts whether or not we agree...it's what makes this board interesting! Have a great day everyone! |
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Drimble Wedge..DRATS! But love your handle.:) Stella did say she liked the pub the way it was. (i did too) Ches looked smart with his new clothes, lets hope his disposition changes a wee bit. He did say that it was time for him to move on when he spoke with Fiz as Katey certainly has (too quickly i may add). I'm hoping he falls for Beth's neice, she seems light-hearted and fun..just what he needs. *Did anyone notice this week...Carl had a saw in his hand and was sorta going at a hunk of wood....so obvious he had never held a saw ever before.hahaha |
| Apparently Rita has a copy of Betty's photo and that's how they get the replacement. |
| Annette: I've been thinking about Betty's picture too...There is no way that it survived.Can't wait to see the new Rovers but I hope it's not too different from the old Rovers. |
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Annette, I think Rob will just continue in his job, finding ways to get more cash to build toward buying a bigger share of Carla's company so he can take it over at some point ( at least that's his hope if he doesn't end up back in jail). I found "Call the Midwife" on channel 120 at 7 p.m., thank you for the info GB friends and see that it is the repeats of this season.
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The Rovers is to have it's re-opening on the Sunday..so when will this be for us, this week? I'm excited to see it again..seems so long now, yet I realize it would take much longer in real life (rl). Wonder what changes there will be..guess Betty's picture was burnt in the fire..which may be good as a number of fans took offense to her being named as Landlady. I don't understand what Rob is hoping to achieve. He and Tracy are going to go off with 20 Grand...THEN WHAT! He owns 30% of the business that he's bilking!! He's almost unemployable b/c of his criminal record. How long will 20Grand last with Tracy in tow..and Amy (maybe). |
| I think since the fire the actor who plays Dev has stepped up to the role in a way he never seemed to before. His acting has been outstanding. Wondering if this might have something to do with the new producer having a good influence on him. |
| Lola, I apologize if my post re your experience in the pub comes off as a bit harsh. That wasn't my intention. Please keep posting. |
| One good thing about Dev. is that he usually speaks clearly - and he makes a change from some of the other characters. I'm counting on him to investigate that fire and try to clear Sunita's name. He should talk to Jason and Leanne. |
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I have never been a Dev fan. I find his acting too OTT and manic, his voice phoney and annoying, his demeanor oily. However, in today's episode, I found him a completely believable and sympathetic character, as he tries to sort out his family's life without Sunita.
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| Hi Hey Jude. Yes, I did restart it and it didn't help. There's def something not right with it! Thanks for the suggestions. I'll ask Phil about it when I speak to him later. UGH, drives me crazy! |
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Yes vixen, actions speak louder than words. Dr. Phil and Oprah would agree! It's not what he says, it's what he does. Gary just had to go into the cafe and sit at Tina's table again tonight. It never ends and smug little Katy will make something out of it and probably blab to Izzy. I hope Ches. at least has some fun with his date. I can't see Michelle and Carla believing anything Tracy says and she does have form when it comes to police attention. On the other hand, they treat Rob like dirt and he is part owner of the place so they kind of bring things on themselves. |
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Apropos of "the non-kiss" discussion is John Locke's assertion that he, " ... always thought the actions of men the best interpreters of their thoughts."
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Okay, you ladies who have been saying that the kiss or attempted kiss was nothing. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. But, let's say you were Izzy and it was your partner hitting on the beautiful surrogate, would you want to know or would you still think too much was made of it? Also, no offence Lola, but you're comparing apples and oranges. The man in the pub was drunk to the point he did his neck licking in front of your husband and others. You'd never seen him before and would never see him again. He had a drunken impulse and acted on it. It could have been you or someone else. Gary has been attracted to Tina for months and as others have pointed out, even longer. He was acting like she was his girlfriend, sneaking up to her apartment whenever he could, spending money he didn't have on her father's ring, lying to Izzy about it. Liquor didn't cause his actions, it gave him the courage to do what he'd been contemplating for ages. |
| Gail: Ok, so I won't re-send them. Have you tried turning everything off, then turning your computer back on again? My computer has been doing crazy stuff lately too, like crashing while in the middle of something. |
| OFF TOPIC*** Hi Hey Jude. My computer keeps downloading junk email but I don't seem to be getting anything else. This is the first time I've turned it on in almost 2 weeks so I don't know if that's why or not. I didn't get any emails from you or anyone else yet today other than all the stuff into my junk email folder. Thanks for letting me know. |
| Gail: Now I'm wondering if you got any of mine? |
| Gail: Yes I got them and I have just sent the 3rd one now. |
| OFF TOPIC****Hey Jude, did you receive any emails from me this morning? I may be having some problems with my emails and just wondered if you received them or not. |
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I hear many of you saying there is too much focus on "the kiss" and want it to stop. The kiss was a very weak, physical manifestation of Gary's mental and emotional state. He bullied Izzy into have a baby because he wanted one and now, just before the birth, he is hitting regularly on the surrogate and even opts for her company over Izzy's where he makes a fatal error in judgement. He suggests that he loves Izzy, wants to be with her, doesn't want to hurt her, wants the baby, but obviously still craves Tina. He should face the situation like a man, take the hurt to himself by giving up on Tina. In doing so he doesn't hurt Izzy and can move on with being a father. "The kiss" is completely irrelevant and incidental, but not unimportant.
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Gail: Yes, I'd love to come back to the Toronto area for a visit - it's been too long since I've been there and there are SOO many people I haven't seen in ages :( Whew! Just came back from a walk - holy smokes it's beautiful and warm - it started out quite cloudy and questionable this morning, I thought for sure it would rain, but it's gorgeous out there. Haili: Absolutely, you are right about Gary and I think Tina has forgotten what his family did to her Dad. She's too young for short-term memory loss!!LOL |
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Yes...waaaay too much made of 'the kiss that never was'. Just to add to the conversation of Vixen & Gail..Katy may also remember how Gary reacted to finding her in Ryan's van, he did accuse her of possibly doing the dirty to Ches. |
| Oh dang, I forgot! I think I left my memory in Kitsilano, sort of like leaving your heart in San Fransisco! Thanks for the welcome back Hey Jude! I also wish we could have met up last week but it was just not good timing for you with no wheels. Maybe I should have tried to find my way out near you on the train. Oh well, I'll just have to come back there and be sure we get together next time and if you ever find yourself here in the Toronto area maybe we can make it work then. |
| Haili, I actually forgot that Gary was after Tina when David and her were together years ago so thanks for reminding me about that! I think he does love Izzy but I guess once a man falls under Tina's spell he never gets over it! Gary and Owen are so much alike, total control freaks. I wonder if Tina will ever remember that it was the Windass clan who started the events in motion which led to her father's death? |
| Gail: Gary "might" become confused? The guy was born confused! No wonder with the parents and uncle he had. He has been attracted to Tina ever since he arrived but she was always with some other guy, until she dumped Tommy. He has done everything to come between her and Tommy and every time they try to have a conversation he comes along and butts in. |
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Gail: Welcome back! I missed you here, and am still so sorry we weren't able to meet up - maybe next time I'll be able to visit Ontario (am hoping)! Good point about if they didn't work on the street, then we'd never likely see them!!LOL I'm also waiting to see how quickly Ryan gets tired of Katy and her "baggage"!LOL Lola: Say what??!!LOL LMAO at that one! I do agree with you, WAAAY too much has been made about an attempted kiss, they really need to get over it. |
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Drimble Wedge: Welcome and keep posting. Lola: Neck licking! Good grief..What pub was this, can you give me directions and what were you drinking?LOL Just kidding of course. |
| Shirley, the "Vision" channel re-runs of "Call the Midwife" started (here) with episode one last week, so tonight's is episode two. You will only have missed one if you catch tonight's and follow on. Marvellous series, and very true to life of the period. |
| For crying out loud! It was a kiss that never happened. The drama that is going on about this is mind boggling. My husband and I went out for a pint last night...a guy came up to me and tried to lick my neck...my husband and the owner of the bar got him out. Case closed...never to be mentioned...are we just cooler in Canada??? |
| I forgot to add, Vixen, good point about Katy wanting to expose that Gary and Izzy's relationship isn't perfect either. I think Katy is just very young and immature. She never was ready to be a mother only she's finding that out a little too late. Chesney on the other hand seems to be able to handle fatherhood well enough, even better if he had a supportive partner who was equally up to the challenge, which Katy has proven she isn't. They did well for a while. I keep wondering how long it will be before good time boy Ryan has had enough of the drama and bales on Katy, leaving her life in shambles. |
| I also thought it was incredibly rude the way Gary's mates just zeroed in on Tina as they did, practically drooling over her picture. I don't recall that they said anything insulting about Izzy, just that they didn't make any comment at all about her which in itself is very insulting. If they did directly insult her with a specific comment I must have missed that. I think Gary does love Izzy but he's got strong feelings for Tina because she's carrying his baby and he does have the lines blurred a bit which was how he explained it. I could see how that might happen, after all, this woman is giving him his own child and of course, he would be so grateful. I could see how a person like Gary *might* become a little confused! But the baby is actually Izzy's too and he needs to focus on that! |
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I agree, Drimble Wedge -- a bedazzling screen name, BTW -- that Gary's mates' endorsement of Tina and their put down of Izzy, was instrumental in Gary's arriving at Tina's door on the night of the ill-fated kiss. I did mention this on the GB when it happened. I was also very disappointed in Gary's response because he did not stand up for Izzy or comment on his feelings for and commitment to her. I thought the same thing, Daphne, that Katy is turning into an egocentric, unlikeable shrew. Joseph seems to have no place in her life and her irrational whining that Chesney should be available to take Joseph at a moment's notice when she wants some afternoon delight is ridiculous. It seems she wants to hurt Izzy by revealing what she knows, even tho' she and Ryan have been assured it was a one-off. I'm wondering if, for spiteful payback, she wants to show the Izzy/Gary relationship is as flawed as the Katy/Chesney coupling. Owen has been opposed to most of Katy's decisions and maybe this tarnishing of Izzy evens the playing field a bit.
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| If they all went off to their jobs on other streets it would be a little boring IMO. I like it this way and if it's not realistic, I just remind myself that Corrie is a show. LOL |
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Thank you, Lisa! What a great bunch the GB folks are! Haili, sorry for misspelling your name. |
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Thanks Hailie, much appreciated! (I had a feeling Rob would be sticking around :) Drimble Wedge, the advantage of not getting a higher education is that you get to stay in Corrie, in an acting job that pays well and could lead to more acting jobs. Seriously, I've wondered about that too and posted on here about it as well. I don't think it's an accurate depiction of the North of England. I would imagine there would be a people in almost any community there who have more or less education. At one time though, England had a very strict class system so the better educated would tend not to interact with the less educated. I think that's changing now but I haven't been there for years. Perhaps some of our posters who visit frequently could tell us whether or not that is still true. |
| Welcome to the GB Drimble Wedge. Good point that Gary was highly emotional after the Quinny remembrance reunion with his army buddies. Tina knew he had just returned from that and could have cut him some slack but that is not in her nature. Hope you will keep posting. |
| 22 May 2013, Jeannie, is 4 June Canada |
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Jeannie: you can see last night's show on the CBC site but not that much happened. SPOILER** Katy was talked out of telling Izzy about the kiss that never was. Roy is still upset re. his father. There was talk about opening the Rovers soon. Carla, Michelle and Rob had words with Michelle storming out so Carla has put Rob in charge of distribution and packing. Rob is planning some scam to get even. We heard that Rob looked after their mother while Carla took off for greener pastures. The mother was an alcoholic. |
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What a nasty bit of work Katy is turning into. And Rob also. He begged Carla for a job when he first got out of jail; because he held the fort for her she was silly enough to give him 30% share in the company when she should have given him a fat bonus. Now she is stuck with him and he is thinking he is God's gift to business and has grown a giant ego and a giant chip on his shoulder. Could she make him a sleeping partner I wonder and pay him to stay away. He was less than businesslike in the bookies with Tracy and doesn't see anything wrong in that. Now I suppose he will sabotage the orders and steal Carla's business. No wonder he was a jail bird. My new love to hate list now includes Katy and Rob. Gary is so stupid - why can't he let sleeping dogs lie? Always making things look worse than they are by his constant harping. And mark me down as one who does not want to see Jim back. I never liked his character from day one. I don't think he is acting - I think he portrays exactly who he is in real life. |
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Sara, he is not. One might well wonder though, given her choice of mates: Les Battersby, Karl Monroe, what stellar example of English manhood she selected to be Eva's father. The mind boggles. I managed to miss Corrie yesterday. Can someone give me a brief summary. Alternatively if anyone knows of the top of his or her head what date it showed it Britain, I'd appreciate that too so I can watch it online, but don't go to any extra trouble search ing it out. I really should be getting some work done. |
| Sara: Apparently not, but I don't think we know who her Dad is. Maybe someone else knows .... |
| Quick question...is Karl Eva's father? |
| That's right Vixen. In fact there was a case in the news recently where a woman carried her sister's baby for her because she couldn't carry a baby to full term and the biological parents had to legally adopt the baby because in the eyes of the law, the sister was the mother because she gave birth to the child, bio or not, it apparently doesn't matter. Not sure if it's possible to establish a contract before the birth waiving rights or not. Probably not. I just got home from 2 weeks of pet sitting my daughter and her hubby's dog in Vancouver! Had a wonderful time there, in spite of rain the first week. |
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Shirley, if it helps at all, Call the Midwife is broadcast on Wednesday at 6:00 P.M. on Channel 80 (VisionTV) in our area. The scheduled air date and time are usually consistent over time zones.
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| Tina not only threw Graeme away but also Jason and Dr. Matt and now Tommy. She must get tired of them after awhile. As for being a natural mom it's kind of complicated. It wasn't her egg but her body carried and nurtured the baby for all those months so it's also part of her in a way. There are a few characters we haven't seen for ages but I haven't missed most of them except for Audrey. Emily hasn't been seen much for the past couple of years and I wonder if she's getting ready to retire. I haven't missed Jenna, Sophie, Mandy and Marcus and Maria. Kirk hasn't been around either and seems to be on less and less, but then Corrie has become the Windass/Owen gang show lately. |
| I think the law regards the mother to be the one who gives birth. At least that is what I think they said at the clinic when Katey was trying to become a surrogate for Izzy. |
| Shirley, if you have Shaw, Vision TV is channel 120. Don't know about Telus or if you have a dish. I am confused and maybe I missed something about all this surrogate thing. Tina is re-thinking giving Gary & Izzy the baby since she thinks Gary does not love Izzy, but did they not use Izzy's egg? Did they use Tina's egg? ( will Lassie rescue Timmy from the well / .....sorry... I digress ) I thought they used Izzy's egg and Tina was just the host / carrier. How can Tina keep the baby if it is not biologically hers? |
| Shirley to find what channel Vision TV is on, click here: http://www.visiontv.ca/get-visiontv/ |
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...whoops, my apologies, finally read down to the bottom and Foyle is well covered. So then! Can I at least redeem myself and recommend a fab miniseries called Island at War? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401019 Lots of familiar faces in it, including Sean Gallagher (aka Paul Connor, remember him?), Joanne Frogett (Anna from Downton Abbey), Laurence Fox from Inspector Lewis, Philip Glenister from Ashes to Ashes and Life on Mars and many more. YES, lately it feels like it's all about the Prices and the Windass/Armstrongs. I am SO bored with those families! The scenes with Roy and Sylvia stood out all the more in comparison. I'm wondering if Sylvia was always so difficult, or if she became harder after Roy's father left her? I also have this feeling that St. John may have left because Roy was "different" or "difficult" and he found it a strain to raise such an odd child -- am I imagining things or has this been hinted at in the past? I can certainly understand both he and Sylvia must feel very bitter that he left and started another family and ignored his previous one; perhaps he felt it wouldn't be fair to his new family, or just lacked the nerve. It does seem like he never forgot them though. I would have much preferred to see a reconciliation. As for the attempted kiss heard 'round the world...remember that Gary's squaddie mates seemed to be egging him on, going on about how fit Tina was. Did anyone else find it odd that he'd have a pic of her with him? I think Izzie is very pretty in her own right too, but Gary's pals hooting and teasing over Tina probably played a role too, not to mention he'd be a little tipsy *and* emotional after hanging out drinking with them and remembering Quinny. As for Tina, I never really forgave her for more or less throwing Graeme away. He was lovely and wonderful and deserved to be a permanent part of the show instead of them hastily throwing him in with that useless Xin and the two of them taking off. Whatever happened to Mandy? They haven't done much with her and she's completely vanished lately. I always found her a bit humourless and naggy. I think they don't know what to do with her now. One of the big failings of the writers of the past few years: no one has a job outside the Street. Right now only Marcus and Paul actually leave to go to work. Manchester is a big city, yet it seems if someone can't find a job on the cobbles they are doomed to be unemployed, which is ridiculous. I realize there is more potential for drama and interaction if people are working together at the salon, cab firm, factory, pub, whatever, but they managed to find plenty for Marcus to do even though he's not there 24/7. This also ties in with the way education is portrayed on the Street -- no one seems to be permitted to get one! (I've heard a rumour that Bill Roache demands that Ken be the only educated permanent character on the show, but who knows how true that is) Ryan flunked out, Amber flunked out, Sian stuck to her school but wound up leaving the show, Sophie is rotting away with no education, Rosie left her expensive Oak Hill schooling behind to become a bimbo, Toyah was seen going to college but it was demeaned (silly "art" projects and a lecherous lecturer for a boyfriend), Todd passed up OXFORD for Sarah Platt! Good grief! As if anyone would let a chance like that slip away! Jenna may have scuppered her career at that particular hospital but surely she hasn't been struck off from practicing her profession at all? Even Xin was studying to be a psychiatric nurse but couldn't find a job. The message the Street seemsm to be sending is quite depressing, really, if you examine it: don't bother going to school; if you do manage to go it'll come to nothing in the end, so you might as well sew knickers or work in a pub (yet still be able, inexplicably, to afford tropical holidays all the time). |
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Anne and Vixen3 , thank you for the Call the Midwife info. Now if I can just figure out where Vision tv is... Please let me/us know when it starts up again in case I miss seeing it. I wrote a post earlier and somehow I missed and it didn't post. Glad to hear some of you back. Again I had to catch the midnight Corrie show as I missed the afternoon one. I'll be glad when it's back on at 6:30 or 7:30 p.m. in July.
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| "Anthony Horowitz suggested on his website that Foyle's War will return for an eighth series in 2013.[3] It was later confirmed by ITV that three episodes had been commissioned for 2013.[4] Those three episodes were filmed in Ireland and London[5][6] and broadcast on ITV from 24 March to 7 April 2013." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foyle%27s_War |
| OFF TOPIC: regarding Foyle's War...I love the series and have the complete set on DVD. Guess what?! THREE NEW EPISODES have been commissioned and filmed! They will air on PBS in September 2013! |
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Roy reminded me of Norris the way he lectured Craig. Tina tried to use her harsh bossy tone with Katy, but Katy wasn't influenced by her. It was nice to see someone not intimidated by Tina's tone for a change. However, I'm tired of that whole gang of Gary, Tina, Katy, Chesney, Anna and Owen. Not only is it boring, but they've been taking up too much screen time. It would be nice to balance it out with Audrey, the Platts, Rita and Dennis. Emily has been non-existent for a long time. And it would be nice to see Deirdre even though Ken's not around. And there's been no sign of Tyrone lately. |
| Haili; good points made and taken. There are some others whom I would add to your list of those characters who should go. Perhaps we could hire a bus? I'll drive :-) |
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Shirley, as Ann just indicated, PBS aired the final episode of Season 2, Call the Midwife, on May 19th. However, VisionTV started broadcasting Season 1 just after that. It's worth seeing a second time or watching the first time if you haven't seen it, as you will get all the backstories which will make the viewing of subsequent seasons that much richer. What a great series! I can hardly wait for Season 3 to begin.
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| SHIRLEY:- Call the Midwife is finished for now, at least on my local channel. |
| George - Yes she was, of course she had limitations at 90, but still had her sharp/witty tongue. My last best memory of Betty was comforting Claire after Ashley's death. |
| TerryM: Betty was fun when she was 90! |
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Was there ever a bigger hypocrite than Katy? She's making a big deal out of a kiss that never happened but has no problem with kissing Ryan all the time in front of Chesney. She sneaked around with Ryan and kissed him several times while still living with Chesney but now Gary is the bad guy. I know he's no angel but neither is she. Rob owns part of the factory but Carla can't give him his job back? As he said, those buyers were his contacts. Michelle throwing a tantrum was out of line too since the 3 of them worked together in the past. I'm sure he has a devious plan and he and Tracy make a good pair. |
| Hmnn...I've missed a few episodes in the last two weeks and caught part of tonight's. Looks like they are turning Rob into the next person to be hated as he has a huge grudge against Carla. Being egged on by Tracy is obviously going to lead to disaster....and not hers...she always seems to come out unscathed, apart from a stern lecture from Blanche, Ken and Deidre...Two of whom are no longer around...Yikes...We need more matriarchs on the street. |
| I just re-read my post below. Sorry for the rambling. |
| I got to thinking about Izzie wanting a baby so badly because Gary was desperate for one after the miscarriage. Owen needed to make it happen for his little Izzie, because he wanted to make things easier on her because of her difficulties. As a father, Owen should have been more level headed and tried to convince them to wait a while to see how their relationship developed, and to make sure that they were looking at the whole surrogacy process as mature individuals who were able to accept whatever reality life threw at them. If I recall, he didn't want Katy to have a baby so young, but no one cared what he thought. Reality has a way of catching up with you, no matter what you think you know. |
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Let's get back to storylines that let us SHARE the conflict with the characters. The storyline and character reaction have to be believable for fans to put themselves into the situation and understand what a struggle the character is going through. If Gary had made a pass at me after drinking, as Tina, I would have pushed him away and said "You're drunk, go home!" I want to share the angst and take the character's problem seriously. How would I deal with it? We don't have to see everyone having affairs... how about just suffering because they love their partner, but really want the other person. How hard is it for them to see the other person and not cheat? Katy cheated way too fast for me to believe it. |
| I have never liked any of the Windass family. Gary is an idiot (stupid as earlier pointed out- take your pick) like his idiot father Eddy, who I was so pleased left. Anna and Faye should go look for Eddy for an extended period of time. I am with the other posters who would love to see the end of the whole lot of them taking Owen and his dim daughters with him. I agree that Tina is going about this kiss business in her typical "no drama drama" way, like saying "nothing to see here" while standing in front of a burning building, of course people will stop to look. Yes, I love it too when someone who wants to keep something a secret brings it up to everyone and anyone on the street, dumb as a bag of rocks IMO, then is oh so shocked when they are the subject of gossip and nasty comments. But she is right to have concerns about ticking time bomb Gary and dim Izzy. Tina was so desperate to help Tommy she did not have a real look at the people she was doing this for, money was the issue. Now with hormones raging, Gary confirming his stupidity (and potentially violent behaviour rearing again IMO)she may be having second thoughts about just who is she turning this baby over to, the money may not be as big of an issue as the birth gets closer. I really do not like Izzy or Katy, never have, I would not turn over a puppy to either one. I find them both so hopelessly out of touch with their own realities and very weak individuals,I hate to see them on the screen. Owen would have been a less than stellar dad but those girls are hard on the head. I do not find Izzy sweet or nice which I think the writers are going for as a contrast to raging, nasty Gary but she just looks weak and like a doormat to me. Maybe when she hears about her beloved's indiscretion I see another side of her, I hope. |
| Gary was never that stable from the time he arrived. He was in jail for theft, then had a breakdown after his army time and got violent, and he never wanted a baby until Izzy had the miscarriage. Suddenly when she didn't want to carry another child he was desperate to become a dad. Now he's making a pass at the surrogate; what's wrong with this picture? Maybe Tina will have second thoughts about the whole thing but she wouldn't listen to Rita or Tommy and just had to do it so now there will likely be problems - but didn't we all know that was coming? There are tons of possibilities - a writer's gold mine! |
| Alec I think your completely right .I would be wondering if this couple ,that was so solid, should be getting a baby if the man makes passes at other women. Tina said as much. |
| Couldn't disagree with the posters more who say that Tina should just move on from the attempted kiss. Ummm, she is carrying this man's baby. yes for money but there is a baby growing inside her that she plans to hand over to this "happy" couple, but he is making moves on other women. I would be pissed and wonder if my efforts were for nowt. |
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I wouldn't mind if Gary and Tina ran off together; then Owen and the gang could go and look for them - and never come back - and take Faye! Owen might be a decent character if he had different story lines but he is cast as a bully with a hot temper. Katy just whines a lot and wonders why Chesney is upset that she's making out with Ryan all the time in front of his door, then wants him to baby sit while she goes out. Anna is too smothering and hysterical. It's time for new blood IMO and they should give the baby stories a rest for awhile. "When in doubt say nowt" makes a lot of sense. We always used to say: when in doubt, chicken out! |
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Laurel, Haili, Gayle, Joanne, I agree with your sentiments. Most scenes are used to further a story line, to give the viewer new information or insight into a particular situation or character. Last night, it seemed, all scenes were just rehashed, recycled, regurgitated scenes we had all seen before. Nothing was new. Not one story line was moved forward. We ended up in the same place we started.
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Laurel and Haili, I totally agree with you both. The writers must be dizzy, going round and round in circles with the dialogue, although they can recycle parts of old s*c*r*i*p*t*s* with the words "did he/she see?", "will he/she tell?", "what will we do?", "don't worry, I'll deal with it". Gary is stupid. Instead of ignoring it all, he makes a song and dance of it by chasing after Tommy and begging him not to tell. If nothing happened other than a stupid error of judgement, there is nothing to tell. Brings to mind the old advice, "When in doubt, say nowt". Or the other one about it being better to keep quiet and risk people thinking you're a fool, rather than opening your mouth and proving it ... something like that? I do hope that "event" isn't leading to Tina and Gary riding off into the sunset together ... then I will give up. |
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Melissa..you commented on Gary's jeans being so tight...they must be sooo tight, it's cut off the blood to his brain. HE IS TOO STUPID! Haili..so funny, the 4 names you mentioned as interesting characters were 4 characters I didn't like at all! Just goes to show ya, can't please everyone. Can't stress enough...GARY IS STUPID! |
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Laurel and Haili I agree with your comments. I found last night's eppie boring. The Windass crew must be rolling in money after the family dinner they all headed over to the bistro and kept on drinking. I assume they were at the bistro so we could see Gloria, Karl and Stell again rambling on about the Rovers and how Gloria gave them the money to re-build. Izzy won't be able to spend her evenings drinking in the pub or bistro when she has a newborn baby to look after. Somehow I can't see Gary sitting at home with her. I didn't blame Peter one bit for being angry at Rob and the grinning idiotic Tracey. They act like a couple of horny teenagers. Why exactly does Carla owe Rob? |
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Haili - Tina is going to have the baby very soon, but of course the story will still drag on. :-( Here's some humour: Does anyone think Steve now looks like Peter Boyle in 'Young Frankenstein'? :-) Apologies to Simon Gregson or maybe Peter Boyle(rip). |
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TerryM: Elsie at 90 would be more fun than the Windasses, Tina, and Owen and the gang! At least she spoke clearly and didn't whine over attempted kisses ad infinitum - or whatever. I give the writers credit for trying to do something different with the surrogate story but the trouble with pregnancy is that it drags on and on and on... Once upon a time there were other characters interspersed with different situations going on but these people seem to take up most of the show night after night. Give us a break please - or pop that kid - soon. I think it's time for the above gang to move on and give us more interesting families like Des, Curly, Gary and Jude, etc. |
| Hey Jude, I think it was Saturday - probably in the middle of the night, who knows.? But this is suppose to be a very active year so there will be more opportunity to see them I am sure. Well Tina & Gary just have to keep discussing the kiss. Lord Tina, just let it go... he apologized. How many time do you have to go over it? So now Ryan knows and he told Katie... So how long before Owen finds out and then Izzy finds out. ? |
| Just watched Corrie. There was nothing at all interesting. Where's Mary, put her on for a few scenes. And I hope more intriguing scenes are being written. This is crazy. We don't usually get such boring boring dialogue in an entire show. I still won't stop watching though, hoping that tomorrow will bring a little intrigue. |
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I don't want Paul to leave. I guess it's because he reminds me of someone I know and care about.
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| Pearl. It was I who made the comment about bed-hopping, but it would seem that I didn't make it sufficiently clear to be understood. We all remember Liz's exploits in the few years before she left the show, and I for one was sorry to see the writers turn her into the street's trollop. It's the current bed-hopping that is tiresome and boring ... one character after another, dump this one and get it on with another almost before the first has exited the scene. And I'd still rather have Jim back than some of the smarmy, creepy men that have been on in recent years, including Vernon. |
| Haili- Elsie Tanner would be 90 years old by now, how much fun could she be? :-) |
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Must agree with Jeannie, Deborah & Lynn, leave Jim in the big house. I never liked him from his earliest days on the show, too bombbastic and a bully. Am chuffed with Liz's return but had to smile at someone? wanting a break from bed hopping. I recall Liz standing on a balcony clutching her clothes to her near naked body in one scene. Bed hopping was her speciality. I also liked Vernon, the writers let him be different than most of the Corrie men. I too liked the scene with Carla and Rob, his voice alone makes him appealing. What was Peter playing at, watching them sort things out (to his favour in fact) then leaving without a word. They must have seen him standing in the door way. |
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Missed the show again! Midnight's will save me. Does anyone know what Call the Midwife changed to? I couldn't find it.
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| I'm afraid to stop watching in case I miss something but the current batch of characters are borrrring! The Windasses can leave any time along with Owen and the girls. What happened to fun characters like Elsie Tanner, Bette, Betty, Liz, Jim, Gary and Jude? Not Gary Windass! I am so tired of Gary and Tina I want to throw something - but I won't. Please let this all end soon. |
| I thought the scenes today between Carla and Rob were well written and very well acted. I could totally get the conflicting feelings each had for the other. Even though he acts like a jerk at times it seems Rob isn't completely without regard for his sister and his need to succeed and perhaps prove himself in her eyes was quite evident IMO.It was also interesting to get another bit or two of their history |
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| What's up with Gary and those tight jeans? lol |
| Jim could not hold a candle to Vern :-). Those white outfits that Liz and Vernon wore to get married is something that will not be seen again soon. Vern was useless like Karl but I found him to be amusing and a goofball which was a bit endearing and annoying, IMO there is nothing endearing about Karl. I thought Vern was kind of fun while Jim is like Owen IMO, a one note bully. I would like to see Liz again. Her and Steve are good together. I would love to see the end of Karl, Gary, Owen, Tim, Paul for starters. Tina, Izzy, Katy, could leave taking all three of the Price women with them. I hope that a new producer can bring some plots forward that do not involve adultery or babies. The writers still have lots of characters to work with. |
| Selby, I vaguely remember Owen having Jim beat up when Owen was going with Liz....didn't he set some heavies onto him? |
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vixen 13: I like the idea of Karl, Brian, and Paul gone before 2013 is done. I think Karl provides a "good" sinister aspect to the show but that would be all I'd miss. Can some one remind me what Owen did to Big Jim? |
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Thankyou for all the lovely comments about my write up/photos. It certainly was a wonderful holiday. I go to see family/friends, the Corrie part is just a small, but fun part of it. If anyone is in the Port Hope area, they are having a ping on June 17th. I am a guest speaker that night and will be sharing stories & bringing some memorabilia. Visit their website for all the info and to register. www.phpl.ca/ I am very happy to see Liz returning to the cobbles where she belongs. As for Big Jim, keep him in the big house! Anyone going to see the Croppers in Western Canada next week, have a fabulous time! Look for announcements of other cast members coming to Canada this September soon. |
| I would love to see Liz and Jim running The Rovers together. |
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We have all heard that both Tina and Haliey will be leaving the cobblestones in 2014, but apparently, Karl, Brian, and Paul will be gone before 2013 is done. I think TPTB may have llistened to the viewers with these last changes.
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| Yes, let's bring back Jim - in his right mind - before he slept with Fiona and robbed a bank. Then let him land a good punch on Owen but never get found out. Owen deserves it big time for what he did to Jim. Then he could become the voice of reason in his older years. I'd like to see Bill back too, to hang out with Jim. There are lots of characters who could hit the road to make room for Liz and Jim but it would be mean to name them here. |
| Hi Joanne. I couldn't agree with you more re Liz. I am so chuffed they are bringing her back. Stellar character. Stellar actress. Can't say I'm crazy about seeing Jim again though. I liked the original character but he's been painted into a corner - could he return as anything but a boozy, fighty oaf forever proclaiming, "I love you, Elizabeth! So I do!" as he pounds yet another hapless dude into the cobbles? I don't want to see that, but if he could be more like the Jim of years ago, before he had that stupid, totally unbelievable (Whose idea was that anyway?) one-night stand with Fiona (It was all downhill after that IMO) then I could join you in saying, "Bring back Jim!" |
| Millions of thank-you's to whomever let us know that "Liz MacDonald" will be back, initially for a 6-month contract, which I hope, hope, hope will be extended. Also hope that "Jim" will be back, too. Perhaps the return of "Liz" means that the new director will be bringing back something like normal life characters and story lines, and stop all this teenage angst, someone's bed barely cooled off before a new body is jumping into it, situations that are never explained because someone leaps to wrong conclusions and storms out, and spiteful dialogue between what are supposed to be friends or family. And please tell me that Gloria, Eva, Stella and Karl will be leaving and taking Rob along with them? |
| Plaid Cat: No I didn't unfortunately. Which night? Friday there was quite a bit of cloud cover late in the evening, not sure about Sat or last night. |
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*** OFF TOPIC *** Hey Jude; did you happen to see the Northern Lights over the weekend? The news said they were seen as low as Abbotsford/ Mission. |
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I would like to see Roy connect to some degree with his step family.
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I'm very glad Tina raked Gary over the coals. He just says he's confused. I do think he's not really thought it through. I believe he's just mixed up the feelings about being a dad and Tina's carrying the baby for the real thing. What she should have done was smack him hard. Now she's really in a hard place having to lie to Izzy as is Gary who is making a career of of lying. Tina went running to Rita but Tommy offered to help instead. Still, these two can't seem to find their way back to each other. Someone's going to notice the coolness between Tina and Gary sooner or later because Tina has really been thrown for six over all this, second guessing whether she's giving the baby to a loving couple or a volatile nutter. I realize Tina needs to confide in someone but Tommy was absolutely the wrong one, what with his propensity to blurt out in anger but it doesn't stop him from giving Gary an ultimatum. Izzy can see there's tension and she doesn't know why, not really. Gary keeps trying to put her off peacemaking because he's guilty and he is no match for Tina's fury, is he? How can Izzy not pick up on all that? Tina and Gary and Tommy are going around the Street glaring at each other. Gary is trying desperately to get them to act like nothing's happened and Tina and Tommy are busy blanking him. People are noticing. They have an argument in the builder's office and guess what? Ryan overhears, because he's come to talk to Owen, man to man, about Katy. There's another one to find out the secret and he's dating Izzy's sister. One little kiss sure seems to cause a lot of trouble on this Street. Poor Marcus keeps getting corralled into medical advice. At least there's no test they can do. That lets Kylie and Nick off the hook for now. David further pushes the envelope by asking Nick to look after the kids if anything happens to him and Kylie. Awkward! One seizure and he's looking at his own mortality and talking about making a will. Well, really, that's not a bad idea when you have kids but it does ratchet up the uncomfort zone for Kylie and Nick. Chesney's miserable face is really annoying me. Why is he accusing Katy of dumping the baby... on his own father. You'd think Chesney would be thrilled to spend more time with Joseph. Katy's date with Ryan went south because Chesney ruined her mood. Then she really did palm the baby off on Anna because she didn't want to get into another row with Chesney who moans and hollers about it but hates to mind the baby to let Katy spend time with Ryan. He's always starting rows in the middle of the street. Everyone else is criticizing Katy too and it's pushing her right out the door. Who the heck cares. I don't. What's Katy using for money now that she's not working at the kebab shop? Is Chesney giving her money? Is she on single mum benefits? Ryan and Katy are also making me ill. I hate them. I hate this story. I hate how they've changed Chesney into a miserable jealous old man all because of one kiss. He pushed Katy straight into Ryan's arms. Owen nearly pushed Ryan right out of them, too, in his usual bully way when he caught Ryan and Katy just after doing the rumpy pumpy. A lot of that going around, eh wot? Owen's already got his solicitor onto Stella. Gloria is looking more and more guilty. Eva's back from yet another holiday and shocked to see the pub up for sale and even more shocked to see her mother scrubbing floors and she's blaming it all on Leanne. With that crisis coming to a head, it all comes out. Gloria's got the cash after all. How? Plot hole of the week, that's how. Eric's wife and his solicitor both said Gloria wouldn't get a cent. When did Eric change his will? And if she did inherit, why wouldn't the former wife contest it? Why would Gloria watch Stella struggle for weeks and keep the secret of her money to herself and spending it on her own, hoping Leanne would pay up or the bank would? I liked her before but this really is the limit of selfishness and she's off my Christmas list. And even after all that, she didn't offer it to Stella, preferring to keep it as her nest egg, at first anyway. But everyone's put pressure on her and added to the guilt so she went to Owen and offered him her inheritance. She pointed out that he'd still get nothing if he took Stella to court and everyone would know he'd be the one that shut down the Rovers. After everything she'd said about not giving the money to Stella, it was quite a surprise when she told them. At least they're putting Karl to work...for free too! You notice that they're going to have to find second hand tables and fittings so that means the pub is already going to have a lived-in feel, nice and traditional. Even Leanne was guilted into contributing a bit towards the decorating. It's certainly given Stella the opportunity to quit the cleaning job. That didn't last long. Why on this green earth would Karl have the slightest hope that Nick would give him a job given the way Leanne feels about him? Anyway he's having to be a builder for no money at all to help with the rebuilding expenses. But what I wanted to know is, if Gloria is so worried about having no security, why didn't she offer the money as a buy-in partnership rather than just a gift which is what it sounds like she was doing? Well apparently they are doing just that as she's calling herself co-owner. The pub is nowhere near being ready but Gloria's already inviting people to an opening in less than a week and Stella's putting pressure on Owen so he's going to concentrate on the pub and leave the living quarters to later. Karl continues to make me ill by being all loved up over Stella. Paul and Eileen have had their days away in London. Brian's at a loose end without Julie. That bit with the vegetables was mystifying wasn't it? Brian talking about Paul's dangerous job isn't helping Eileen, though. She got through his first day back at work with a little help from the wine bottle. Tim's not paid for the school trip. One more point against him. Faye's realizing it's not so green on her Dad's side of the fence. Anna's right, if Tim can't afford the school trip, and Anna can find the money, she's still her mother and it's only right she contribute. She's just trying to make a point but she couldn't disappoint her either. Peter and Rob are still rutting like stags on the hill, both moaning and complaining, Peter pulling rank and Rob pushing back. The coffee machine is pouring coffee when it's not asked for and making a mess but Rob delays fixing it mainly because Peter told him to. I would think the company he leased it from is responsible, not Rob as the customer. Anyway, Tracy distracted Rob from his rant with a bit of rumpy pumpy in the back room and Peter arrived back to find the machine spewing coffee all over the floor again. Not happy. Roy's read the letter. It's full of regrets and his father wants him to get in contact. Sylvia thinks that should be an end to it but Roy isn't sure. Letting a phone ring for 3 minutes is a pretty safe bet someone isn't home. He's even made a list of questions except when he finally gets through to someone, his dad isn't there. He's moved out ages ago and apparently the new owners took over the old phone number. That is doable in the UK, in case you were wondering. Roy has decided to find his father now and nothing will get in his way. There's a trip through the family photo album with gems from Sylvia non-stop. Wonderful, wonderful stuff! Sylvia tracked down an old friend of St. John's and then Roy got all nervous again. Roy is really thrown off centre. He is already questioning his life and fears that he will not hear the answers he wants. He also fears his father will be disappointed him him, too. But the end result was not what was expected. St. John has been dead for 3 months, dying with many regrets. Roy's got half-brothers and a half-sister, will he want to meet them? Probably not. Even now that Roy knows his dad is dead, Hayley keeps pushing. Now she wants him to talk about his feelings and to visit the grave. I am really loving the Cropper storyline. It's really developing the relationship between Roy and his mother for one thing. Some amazing scenes between Roy and Sylvia especially when Sylvia was emphasizing how different Roy is from his father. You know St. John's abandonment hurt her as much as Roy. Roy really is resisting getting in touch with his feelings. LIkely as not he doesn't know how he feels, very mixed emotions i should imagine, knowing Roy. But Sylvia and Hayley manage to get him to the cemetery because Sylvia herself wants to go anyway. Lovely scenes with Sylvia telling Roy how she met his father and how different things where back in the day, then hissing about hating him for leaving her and her young son. Roy "I had the distinct impression that the only reason you'd want to visit his grave is to dance on it" Owen to Katy "You can't run your life depending on what mood you're in" Sylvia "With sharp observations like that, we're going to have to start calling you Poirot" Roy "It's a puzzle. I like puzzles" Eileen "Brian. You're a plonker" Sylvia "He had a lazy eye. I say lazy, I mean bone idle" Gloria "I've made an omelette out of me nest egg" Roy "One thing I know. I love you" Hayley "Belt up, Roy" Stella about Karl "I know I can trust him" (Phrase of Doom alert) Sylvia "You wonder how a nation that is so fond of analysing itself can end up such a mess" Chesney "I don't need cheering up ALLRIGHT!!!" Rita to Norris "Isn't it funny that the things folk are most interested in are generaly NONE of their business" (but Norris will never change) |
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Deborah, what an amazing website you've created!! I'm going to have to visit it many times to see all there is to see. Your considerable efforts are appreciated. Thank you!
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| If Roy does not have Aspergers, then he must have severe OCD. I would assume most people who make a call and do not get an answer would give up after 5 or 6 rings. Roy was letting the phone ring for over 3 minutes...that's approximately 90 rings. Not only that but he was timing it with his watch! I found that a bit odd even for Roy. |
| Debhora, boy you really travel a lot to see all the Corrie actors. It's amazing how many of them you've been able to see, visit with and take pictures with. They seem to know you by now and sound wonderful. How nice for you. Thank you so much for sharing with us through your link. I plan to show my husband them tomorrow. Patricia, I'm hoping the best for you. |
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I'm sure that if she needed help ( or at least I hope so)Izzy would ask for it, either through Katy or some other way.
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| Daphne: I had a bad leg from rheumatic fever when I had 2 toddlers and couldn't keep up with them. They could get out the door before I could get to them. That's why I wonder how a woman in a wheel chair could manage. I suppose there are ways around any disability but it can't be easy. |
| Daphne, I personally know many disabled women who have raised kids, these women have no legs and often no arms or very short arms (thalidomide) and their kids learned how to adapt around their mom's disabilities in ways no one could imagine. One Irish friend has 5 children! Not saying it was easy but I don't think having kids is easy in any way... |
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HEY DEBORAH !! What a great trip and you were so lucky to meet so many Corrie people - neat that you were recognised. Loved the pictures, thanks for posting them. |
| Haili - I voiced the same thoughts about Izzy's ability to chase after toddlers seeing they move like greased lightening. I was soundly corrected by people who knew people or whatever so we must assume she would be a very capable Mum. What puzzles me is how she would manoeuvre that chair around the furniture in those tiny rooms. |
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Good memory Pearl ! I hope they turn it into something amusing so we get to laugh at Tracy. |
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Hi Deborah, thank you for sharing the link. Wow, what a day to remember, just looking at your photo's gave me butterflies : ) ‼ I am so happy you got to experience the awards show and meet so many stars ~ it couldn't happen to a sweeter person than you ☺! xo |
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Pearl: you're welcome. I have a warped sense of humour but I often laugh at some of the posts here and it cheers me up too. Jeannie: thanks, I remember it now. Maybe it will end the same for Tina and Izzy but I just can't picture Izzy chasing after a toddler in that wheel chair. I know that's politically incorrect but it took all my energy to keep tabs on my kids when they were toddlers. Maybe she would have to have someone to help her once the baby can run around. |
| Lisa, I totally agree with you that it's the parents money to do with as they choose, but the children do have expectations, justified or not. How many family fights has started after a parent dies and the children don't feel things have been distributed evenly. Isn't there some law about a disinherited child being able to contest a will, which would mean they do have some claim on the parents' worldly goods. I'm just going to be sure to live long enough to spend everything! LOL!! |
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"Patricia, a lawyer friend of mine always advises against giving one's children their inheritance early" That phrase always annoys me, "their inheritance" As if they deserve it, or it is theirs. It is not theirs, it is the parents' money. |
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Ho haili, Your 13:01 post had me spraying my screen with coffee. Love the Corrie way of christening new ventures. Who needs a bottle of champane to lanch a ship when a woman can give birth on the bar. LOL Thank-you, thank-you, I was in a foul mood and that cheered me right up. Remember Mark, Tracy did drive taxi for streetcars years ago. Think it was while she was pregnant with Amy or soon after she was born. T should be capable of handling a deliver van in traffic. |
| Haili, that back story does put a different light on the subject of Gary and Tina. When he first tried to kiss her I thought she was just repulsed at the idea. Now, I wonder if it's not a bit more complicated. |
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Sending you big hugs Patricia. Hope you are able to make it on the 17th. xx
We just got back from England where we met a number of the actors, had afternoon tea at Jennie McAlpine's (Fiz) restaurant and attended the 2013 British Soap Awards. It was wonderful being in the audience as Coronation Street won 8 awards. If anyone is interested in looking at photos click on link above. I know there are Heartbeat fans on here as well. We went to Whitby and Goathland(where they filmed Heartbeat). I've put photos on my website too. Click on link above and there will be links at bottom of page for Heartbeat. |
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Re: Juno. I couldn't remember the details either Haili so, if we can trust Wikipedia, here's what they have to say. This begins after the adoptive dad has told Juno he's leaving Vanessa and he wonders how Juno feels about him: After a heartfelt discussion with Mac, Juno accepts that she loves Paulie. Juno then tells Paulie she loves him, and Paulie's actions make it clear her feelings are very much reciprocated. Not long after, Juno goes into labor and is rushed to the hospital, where she gives birth to a baby boy. She had deliberately not told Paulie because of his track meet. Seeing her missing from the stands, Paulie rushes to the hospital, finds Juno has given birth to their son, and comforts Juno as she cries. Vanessa comes to the hospital where she joyfully claims the newborn boy as a single adoptive mother. On the wall in the baby's new nursery, Vanessa has framed Juno's note, which reads: "Vanessa: If you're still in, I'm still in. —Juno." The film ends in the summertime with Juno and Paulie playing guitar and singing together, followed by a kiss. |
| Jeannie: Tina and Gary never dated but he often flirted with her when she was with David and punched David over an argument about the flirtation. She seemed to enjoy the attention back then and I think she still does. In Marie's absence, I have to mention how Tina always invites him in for coffee and seems to enjoy his company at the birth class, then she puts his hands on her stomach. He should not have made the pass but the kiss never happened and they really do go on and on about it. Yes, I loved the movie Juno but had forgotten that the husband fell in love with her. Did the wife end up with the baby and the couple split up? I have a very bad memory for movie plots. |
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Patricia, a lawyer friend of mine always advises against giving one's children their inheritance early for much the same reason you outlined with your friend, but also because you never know when you're going to need the money yourself! Stay strong! Good luck with your treatments. Positive, warm thoughts coming your way!
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Jeannie it would be interesting if someone with Henry's brains for calculating stuff could tell us what percentage of the pub Gloria owns. Stella won't be able to shut her out now - HA HA - this is going to get better and better. I think Gloria is going to start enjoying her golden years. |
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Patricia, I am sending best wishes and hugs to you too. I guess we'll have to wait and see with the Gary and Izzy and Tina triangle. I do hope we're all wrong and Tina isn't harbouring feelings of love and lust for lacklustre Gary. Can't Izzy just have her baby and her little family? Now, having said that, I am always whining about realism and for this story line to go smoothly from start to finish probably wouldn't be realistic. Terry said a while back that the writers should get credit for bringing in the surrogacy storyline and he's right. It's an issue in the real world, like it or not. There are all kinds of places where this could go horribly wrong. We're starting to see one. Does anyone remember the movie Juno? Juno was giving her baby to an infertile couple and the husband fell in love with her.Haili, I believe you said they (T & G) had a history. That must have been when I was taking a break from the show. Did they date? On another storyline - it looks like Gloria is identifying herself as a part owner of the Rovers and why shouldn't she? Should make for some interesting scenes with Stella and Karl. Karl refers to the pub as ours, and Stella doesn't say a word. But I think she might chafe a bit when Gloria wants some say in how the Rovers is run. |
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Monique... I agree. Tina lost her marbles about the "us." Plaid Cat... I agree what's the rush? When the bar collapses she'll blame Owen. And she get enough booze in on time? haili.. I can't wait to see Tracy drive the big van. I hope she gets a flat tire LOL. Daphne... Roy is thought to have Aspergers but I heard his actor denies it. Patricia... take good care of yourself. |
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I don't know the cost of stuff in the UK anymore so I have to take the £90,000 as reasnable but I would bet the farm it cost a whole lot less knowing that Owen overcharges his work. Probably buys shoddy material too. And how did we get from little more than bricks to just about to open. I guess having superman Karl on the job?????? Doesn't Roy have some syndrome or other. Maybe this makes him view things differently. I thought it was exactly Roy when he put the blame on Hailey. That is the way he sees it and Roy is devastatingly truthful, no matter who is on the receiving end. Sylvia and the widow are so diametrically opposite that you can see why St.John failed with Sylvia but evidently succeeded admirably with the second wife. While I hold no brief for Ryan and Katy, Owen is a real dyed in the wool bully. Katy whined because she wanted a baby, whined when she was pregnant and now is whining about looking after Joseph. She should have left him with Chesney. On the other hand Chesney is being unreasonable but had he been left with Joseph I think he and Fiz would have worked out a schedule to take care of Hope and Joseph. We are seeing signs of a Tina and Graham duo. Poor Izzy. Trust a soap to have someone demand a meeting only to tell the other party to stay away. Like you couldn't say it over the phone!!! And is Ryan going to use what he thinks he heard to put Owen in his place? The plot thickens. |
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Hi Patricia, I agree re Gloria, a lawyer should be involved in her investment to the Rovers especially with Karl on the scene- that gambling, cheating liar! ...but then again she wants her daughter to be with that creep : ( ~*off topic*~ Patricia, I am sorry to hear you are dealing with cancer. I am sending positive thoughts & wishes your way that everything will go smoothly for you, big {{HUGS}} your friend ,V |
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I must admit that, like many of you, I'm confused about the writing around the Tina/Gary story. Once Tina became pregnant, the writers had her very standoffish and proper regarding Gary and it all came to a head when he made a pass at her and she sharply rejected him. Now they have her all doe-eyed and simpering, suggesting that she and Gary had something going. It just doesn't ring true. Surely a highly creative, well paid team of writers could come up with a better way for Ryan to find out about "the kiss".
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Monique...you're right, Tina made it sound like her and Gary were having an affair. Of course Ryan is going to walk away believing that. Another British series is 'Land Girls'. It's set in the second world war. They work the fields for their country in 'The Women's Land Army'. Good wee stories, I've been enjoying the whole series. |
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Haili, you wondered if Roy had a stepfather. I seem to recall that he revealed at one point that his mom had remarried and he and his stepdad did not hit it off. I don't know if he hinted at abuse but the situation was untenable for him and so he left home, probably feeling abandoned by his mother. I thought it rather ironic that Sylvia barked at Roy that he was unsupportive of her, in her grief over St. John's death. She's modelled what "support" was and her son, in my opinion, has given back more than he got! Terry, on your recommendation I'm going to try an episode of Lang & O'Leary, just to see Lang put O'Leary in his place! Our local PBS station is showing Foyle's War Series VII, and altho' I've seen it before, I thought it would be good to watch as a prelude to Series VIII, whenever we get it. The Russian House was last night's episode and Bletchley was mentioned by Sam's new friend, Adam. Obviously the reference didn't mean anything to me when I heard it the first time, but since then I've seen The Bletchley Circle which told the story of 4 women who worked in the highly secret wartime code breaking centre.
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Plaid Cat: I know it's not realistic but the sooner the Rovers opens for business the better IMO. It's not realistic to have so many skint people eating and drinking in the Bistro. And the sooner Liz comes back and livens up the place, the better. They need to spring Jim from the big house too and get some interesting characters back. The sooner Tina pops that kid out the better too. Maybe she'll christen the Rovers when her water breaks! Mark: I think they just gave Kirk a sick day so Tracy would have to drive the van. |
| Enjoy yourself Shirley. What is up with Gloria & Stella? Gloria is going around telling people ( and inviting them) to the Rovers Grand Re-opening and now Stella is pushing Owen to have it done on Sunday. Gee only if you want a slapped together rebuild. I did not know Owen had a 24 hour re-build going on. Be realistic writers, nothing gets built that fast. !! |
| It didn't make sense for Tina to ask Gary to meet her to ask him to "forget about us". "Us"? What "us" could there be from just one attempted kiss that never was? And she went on about "forgetting everything", as if they actually had an affair. Anybody listening, aka Ryan, would definitely think there was much more to it than an attempted pass. Either it's poor writing or Tina is losing it. Or, maybe it's wishful thinking on her part. Like when she was going on about him thinking that they would lie in bed forever, maybe that's what she would want. I'm not sure, but it sounded as if told Gary that it was very hard to see him every day. Is that what she said? |
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OFF TOPIC My heart goes out to the people going through the tornadoes in Oklahoma, etc. I missed Corrie today so far. I managed to get a ticket to see " Hayley and Roy" next weekend.
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| Jeannie..I agree, why on earth would Tina make Gary meet up with her to tell him to stay away from her. C R A Z Y I hope they don't end up with each other...I cannot stand Gary. I do feel sorry for Ches seeing and hearing all the goings-on between Katey & Ryan..and I wish he'd re-meet Beth's neice. He needs to start over with trusting another gal. |
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Hi Jeannie, Lets hope it was a plot device for Ryan to learn about 'the pass!?!!'. That would make sense as it gives him & Katy some ammunition to use on Owen when he throws Izzy's perfect? life in their faces. OR it could be an often used soap plot, eg Mandy and Lloyd to-ing and fro-ing around each other a few months ago. Oh NO, they ended up together. Izzy was so happy on today's episode she is bound to be let down in the near future. Beth had the best line "that boy certainly knows how to wear his skin". |
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Jeannie, I wondered that too. Why would Tina want to talk to Gary again after making it clear she doesn't want to see him and to stay away from her. Mixed messages (  cookoo).
I was shocked at Stella kissing poor Owen against his will.  She is his employer. That is sexual harassment. I don't think we should be laughing at Steve. He looks sick. (skin tone and puffy face) Well after what I wrote below about Sylvia's poison I had to agree with her tonight. And I agree with Owen. It's his house and his rules. Maybe Chesney should apply for custody and use Ryan's past drug problems in his favour. Now where is the blond lady he met? And why is Kirk sick? What will come of that? 
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Jeannie: Gary and Tina have been attracted to each other right from the start IMO, even when she was with David. That's why she over-reacted to the kiss that never happened or at least that's my theory. They just can't keep away from each other and always have one excuse or another to get together. There was no reason for Tina to go and see him tonight when she could have just talked to Tommy. Poor Steve. Who on earth cut his hair? He looked much better with longer hair. It sounds like Sylvia was very hurt when St. John walked out on her and Roy and still feels bitter after all these years. Of course Roy hates these emotions and doesn't know how to deal with them. |
| Poor Steve! I don't know how his colleagues could do any scenes with him without going into hysterics looking at his hair. Who on earth did that to him? |
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Is it just me? Or in today's episode did anyone else start to wonder if Tina is maybe attracted to Gary? I know, I know. It sounds tres yucky but some of the things that were happening - like her calling him to meet so she could tell him he had to forget about her? Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me it was just a plot device so Ryan could overhear. Please! |
| Linda, I also can't stand Liz Macdonald (nor Steve). |
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omg Steve looks like a convict! yikes!! worst haircut ever. not looking forward to Liz coming back, can't stand her. |
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Yes it's me Sharon but I don't dare kiss her now so not to trigger another "Federal case" as Haili puts it. Well said Annette and Monique and vixen13 and Pearl and Chrissy: The widow seemed like a nice and intelligent lady. I don't see her staying married to Sedgen (sp?) if he was as a bad as Sylvia says. It's Sylvia who got Roy all confused. Hayley didn't know Sedgen (sp) was deceased. She just wanted Roy to feel better. Sylvia's the one spraying her poison all over the place. It was up to Roy to decide and he made that decision. Roy should be seeking comfort from Hayley not bitting her head off. She didn't hide the letter, she didn't kill Sedgen (sp?). If he gets rid of Hayley who will drive him to the wholesallers? |
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| *Mini spoiler*: What on earth happened to Steve's bonce????? |
| Wow that Digital Spy certainly has some interesting spoilers! Mark - is it you that loves Kylie? There is a spoiler interview with her and she looks absolutely stunning! Don't watch it if you don't want to know what is coming up with that storyline... |
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I'm certainly not going to give the game away on here but for those of you wondering about Hailey's departure there's an article on digitalspy.co.uk/soaps that gives all the details on how its going to unfold. I felt so very sorry for Roy finding out after all this time that his father had recently passed away. I was just about in tears when he opened up the little suitcase and found the railway engines and train stuff all so carefully wrapped in newspaper. So sad. |
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Roy's father's widow does seem like a much sweeter person than Sylvia. Two very different characters in any case. I hope this is not what's going to cause a rift in Roy and Hayley's marriage. After having gone through so much together and always being able to depend on each other, it would be a pity if their relationship crumbles because of something Hayley did out of genuine concern for Roy. And Roy only feels that way because he is disappointed that his father died and things didn't get resolved the way he wanted. Just before they went into the house Roy reaffirmed his love for Hayley. If he had been able to talk to his father he would be thanking Hayley. Wasn't Roy estranged from his mother for many years? Didn't he feel a sense of abandonment from her as well? I don't remember the details, but it seems to me that when Sylvia first appeared she had not seen Roy in many years and Roy was upset with her. I'm not sure though, maybe someone can refresh my memory. We Corrie fans have big responsibilities. We not only have to keep track of the stories of our own lives, but the lives of all the Corrie characters as well. |
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Lisa, I agree with you when you said about Gary being like a bomb ready to go off, the look he gave Tommy looked menacing to me, I could only think that when he first came on Corrie he wouldn't have taken that quietly, OR, it could be he is a coward and he needs his uncle and father to back him up, Also if I was Gloria I would have offered Stella an interest free loan through a lawyer of course. OFF TOPIC A few years ago I had a friend in her seventies who decided to give her two daughters their share of their inheritance so that they would not have to pay the taxes on it later. The sad part was my friend and her husband was living in this dilapidated holiday cottage.my friend would often get upset because the daughter very rarely visited them both, their excuse was, "They were too busy with work" They only lived six miles away. I thank God she had lots of friends. she died about ten years later and her Hubby died a few years after that. Whoever it was who mentioned they wished Stella would stop cocking her head to one side, it could be, she has the same problem as I have, I am deaf in one ear so it helps to trap the sound with my shoulder, it beats cupping my hand up to my ear. LOL Also I missed the episodes for just over two weeks when I went into a rest home for my nerves. ( April 26th to May 10th) I can live with Cancer most of the time but this waiting for Chemo and Radiation shots gets me down at times. I shall see you soon Deborah. Hugs to every one. |
| Hi Annette, I agree with your 14:29 post. In the short meeting we had with St John's second wife (widow) she seemed a pleasant forethcoming person if a bit reserved. Sylvia on the other hand is usually prickly and defensive in her interactions with other people. Maybe the hurtful parent was not Roy's dad but Sylvia's gruge against him influencing Roy's memory. |
| Thanks Lisa. You are right, great options for viewing Corrie. As to Liz coming back, maybe she will be there for Dreary if Ken needs to be written out. Hope he comes back, but... |
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I found Roy's response to Hailey so jarring and un-Roylike as it came so unexpectedly in, what for Roy, was a raised, accusing voice. I recognize that Roy has unresolved issues around his father which he was willing to work through to resolution, only to be bitterly disappointed to learn of St. John's death. To this point we have seen Roy as a meek, passive, amenable and humble man. I felt Hailey was gently supportive of Roy and hoped that he could get closure by facing his demons. I found the scene with his dad's widow to be poignantly sad because I, too, wanted Roy to meet and confront his dad after all the years of doubt. Sylvia was very cruel and nasty to Roy, more so than usual, during the whole letter episode and my heart went out to him. That all said, I think the writers have given us a hint as to how and why Hailey leaves the street. It's not going to be in a ball of fire, or under a crashed tram but rather in a taxi, methinks.
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| Monique! Thank you for finding and sharing that wonderful news! Liz McDonald is one of my all time favourite Corrie characters. Doing my happy dance! |
| I'm wondering if Roy's feelings of abandonment haven't been over-played by the help of his Mother Sylvia. Even years later she gets her digs in about her xhusband and his non-fatherly behaviour. I believe she herself has such hard feelings it has to have rubbed off on Roy as a young boy. His father went on to have other children and according to his now (widow) wife, he always felt out of sorts with not seeing Roy. Sylvia would have been a very difficult woman to deal with I would think...even in her older years now, she can be hard. |
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I can't stand seeing Ryan. Him and Katy don't understand about the baby being their responsibility. I can't wait to see how Michelle and Steve react to a baby in the tiny flat. 4.1 people in that tiny flat - ha ha. |
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caught today's episode. SPOILER Hard to take Roy's berating Hayley about making him open the letter, etc. I hate to see trouble in their relationship just to give Hayley a way out of the show, if that's why this is happening.
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1. Please please Stella stop cocking your head to the left. 2. That Owen is such a bully. 3. Why is Anna wearing a wedding ring? She was turning it over and over on her finger today. |
| vixen 13 - Thanks for the explanation |
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Hey Jude, I meant he was a baby for blaming Hayley and making her feel bad. He decided to go in the end. She didn't drag him and she's not a nag. He's lucky to have a caring wife who doesn't smoke and who can drive. Terry I think so. Haili I agree, what man hasn't been rebuffed LOL. Even I've been rebuffed and it was laughed off. I've turned women down and didn't chastise them. Good grief! |
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It looks like we're going to find out more about Roy's childhood and relationship with his father. I thought his father had been cruel to him but maybe it was his step father if he had one. He seems very scarred by his past. Will the angst about the kiss that never landed ever end? What a tempest in a tea pot! At least the Rovers should be opening soon. |
| Terry: that's my guess!LOL |
| Mark - I'm wondering also if this is the first hint of a break-up of Roy and Hayley, as she is leaving the show. I hope not! |
| Mark: I think Roy's childhood was so bad it has left multitudes of scars, and Sylvia had warned Hailey that if she made him open the letter, it might destroy him, or similar words. Obviously he is a very, very sensitive soul, that he obviously has issues with the father that abandoned him and he should maybe have had therapy years ago, but he just buried it and it's so deep now, it's just so painful. I have cousins in a similar situation. It's not all black and white and he's not being a baby either. |
| Jackie S.: I read that Corrie is on Hulu in the U.S. now. That would be more reliable than Youtube, which misses some episodes. |
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What is Roy's problem ? what a big baby taking it out on Hayley. Haili I agree there's more chance of Jason dying than Paul. Oh no not another smoker coming to Corrie. |
| Hence no more Corry |
| Don't forget any person who lives in the US can see Coronation Street on youtube. Easy to find and receive. |
| Here's an idea for the writers: Jim gets out of jail because he wasn't in his right mind due to an easily removable brain tumor. He comes back to the Street healthy again, with Liz to run the Rovers. Stella sells them the place when Karl goes off to jail and she and her family go to Spain. Liz forgives Jim for everything since he wasn't in good mental health at the time. We get to see Liz and Dierdre in their drunken evenings out and girly chats over cups of tea. And we all live happily ever after. |
| Loved some of Sylvia's lines last night. Just hilarious. I'm so glad that Liz is coming back. Whenever I see the house that Kevin now owns, my mind casts back to Hilda and Stan. They loved that little house. Does anyone remember when Hilda got a TV and called the room, 'the viewing room' 'Step into the viewing room' she'd say. And there was always ducks on the wall with one askew. Lots of memories hey. |
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Is Liz coming back for a WEDDING?? She does like Michelle and Steve together. At least she started liking them as a couple as soon as Becky was the alternative. Just a crazy thought about the wedding, no reason to guess that. Fun to see Liz again. Yes, love her and Dreary together. Some of our best Corrie moments are the homey chats between our favorites. More Rita, Norris and Emily, with Liz, please. Roy may never be the same, but maybe he will resolve some issues and get even stronger. Just keep him even if Haley goes. I am still recovering from losing Ashley Peacock, among others, and not ready to lose anyone else. Of course, I know we have only so many houses on the street and need new characters every once in awhile. I do usually like the new ones, except family Stella. I will not be happy if Izzy loses her one chance to be a mum. That would be tragic. Don't care if she loses Gary, tho. Tina is making the problem a reality by opening her mouth. They would probably have been a happy family if she let it drop. Loving Doc Martin, now that I know about it. Sis and I are fond of Brit shows like Vicar of Dibley (hilarious), etc. Poor Sis lives down south and doesn't get Corrie. Poor Girl. |
| Thank you Vixen, I believe that you are right, onesie jammies. Well that is interesting, no wonder Marcus left him (sarcasm). Gary is disturbing to me, he seems like a bomb who is ready to explode. I do not think Tina owes him silence since she is handing the baby over to him and Izzy and IMO Izzy deserves to know what she is stuck with for a partner. Gloria is a nasty cow. If she had worked for a lifetime to get the money I could see her point but this is a windfall (lie back and think of England was lucrative for her) and her daughter is sinking. What kind of mother would allow a child to end up homeless and desperate if she had the resources to help? I do not think that Glo needs to give up all her cash but even a loan to be paid back would help stella and give Gloria a monthly salary to live on, just like a pension cheque. |
| TerryM....that's funny. It would have been cool though if you had walked out with a cup or coffee and three guys dressed up like they were from the 17th century |
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Mookie - I agree Gary is a 'snake.':-) I also thought the brake on the pram was bad writing. Surely even a 'man' could not be that stupid. One last thought on chocolate Mookie, and this is a true story. I once went into a convenience store where the chocolate bars were behind the counter. I asked the girl for a Coffee Crisp and a Three Musketeers. She gave me a cup of coffee and three Three Musketeers bars, and she wasn't even blonde lol. Vixen 13 - I think you'd enjoy the Lang/O'Leary show, as Amanda really holds her own with Kevin and often puts him in his place. It's quite funny at times. |
| Looking forward to Liz's return. Can Jim be far behind. Too bad Hilda has no interest in returning, Same for Alex and odd woman that helped Rita run the shop and is now on another weekly program. I have forgotten the name of both. |
| Thanks Susan for the Foyle's War link. Sadly now that I have to use cable rather than satellite I am unable to access TVO or Knowledge Network so will wait until PBS picks it up. I have my PVR set so any episode of Foyle's War that is aired gets recorded. That was an extraordinarily generous gesture on Gloria's part to sink her savings into the pub. Now will the lazy layabouts in her family be prepared to pull their weight I wonder. So happy to hear that Liz will be back. Really enjoyed her character and especially her little heart to hearts with Dreary. Maybe she can knock some sense into Steve who has been a little stupid lately. |
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Vixen13: Your welcome, but as Haili says, the Doc Martin series is old, but I only discovered it about 6 months ago, so it`s very new to me!LOL Haven`t heard of the other 2 shows you just mentioned though. Yes, I love `Aunt Joan` in Doc Martin as well!LOL Would be happy to see ``Liz`` return, she`d likely give Stella a run for her money, and hopefully we`d see more scenes with her and Steve, we haven`t seen much of him lately. |
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Great news that Liz may be back on Corrie. Hope we see her behind the bar again and Stella & co. long gone. I feel Katy would be less atracted to Ryan if fewer people were nagging her to get back with Chesney (eg. Fiz & Owen) which she has tried 2 or 3 times with him knocking her back each time. It has be 3 months now since they split and Katy is getting on with life. Chesney on the other hand is still brooding and picking fights at every opportunity imo. |
| Thanks Nancy: I guess I have missed the 1st episode of Foyle's War but I will watch the next two. Hopefully some other station will also show it at a later date. |
| Thanks, Hey Jude! I have been a fan of Doc Martin for a long time and have watched episodes many times over because they are so entertaining. I think Martin Clunes is a very versatile actor. Of course, Stephanie Cole from Doc Martin is now Roy's mother, on Coronation Street. Her two characters -- Auntie Joan and Sylvia -- are much the same person -- gruff, opinionated, insensitive. Clunes was in a series, William and Mary, which I have seen recently and enjoyed. He was an undertaker and his partner, portrayed by Julie Graham, was a midwife. Julie Graham more recently was seen in Bletchley Circle which had the flavour of Foyle's War and was a much-too-short series of only three episodes. All great viewing! |
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No wonder Chesney gets annoyed when Katy and Ryan are insensitive enough to be kissing in front of his house and it's the first thing he sees when he steps out the door! I think most people would be hurt by they way they behave in public. Then she gets all upset if Chesney is busy when she wants to dump Joseph on him with no prior notice. He said he had to take the afternoon off to take Joseph yesterday but they are always skint and need the money. She acts like a spoiled little princess IMO. I really enjoyed Doc. Martin but it finished ages ago and I hope PBS picks up the new season. I find myself watching more and more Brit. TV and have trouble finding much else to watch these days. |
| Vixen13: You are so right about Dragon's Den, but I find a lot of the time when Kevin gets nasty and horrible to people who are trying to promote their products, that Arlene steps in and takes him down a few pegs! Yay for Arlene! About Brit shows, have you ever seen Doc Martin? OMG it's a fabulous comedy-drama that our Gail on here got me hooked on. In the Vancouver area, it comes on at 8:00 pm on Friday nights on the Knowledge Network. |
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Haili, I have never watched Lang & O'Leary because I've seen Dragon's Den a few times in passing and O'Leary has been demeaning, rude and downright discouraging to the entrepreneurs looking for his backing. It makes me uncomfortable to observe that kind of bullying behaviour, so I stay away from O'Leary all together. BTW, your list of favourite British TV shows is very similar to mine. I can't get enough and am overjoyed when I find a series I haven't seen before, so keep sharing anything you find. I am thrilled to see Liz returning. She has a big, friendly personality that fits well with a pub setting. I'm not sure how they'd work her in, tho', but I did like the Steve/Liz duo better than Stella as landlady. Pleased for Bev Callard that she's healthy again.
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Hello my little lovelies! I finally caught up again on the show. SPOILER KIND OF... I thought Gary's acting after his smooth move was excellent. He truly looked "rattled". Loved Eva last night too with her shock and horror. Wasn't David great asking Nick/Leanne to look after his/their kids? The lame observation was Chesney not realizing he had the brake on the buggy. I guess that was written in so Gary could have his beady eyes see a little baby and feel another bit of reality. Anyway, love the show and think it's ummmm Wunderbar (are we done with the chocolate theme? Too bad if we are because it made me Snicker) |
| Haili: Yes Kevin O'Leary is def arrogant and pompous, but he makes me laugh because of it!LOL Two very smart people IMHO tho'!LOL |
| There are three episodes in this season of _Foyle's War_; the first one was this past Sunday on TVO. |
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Music to my ears when I hear Liz Mac may return! :) I agree that Chesney has reason to be upset with Katey as it does seem she is always pawning Joseph off to go out (with Ryan)..but Ches is not towing the line either when it comes to Joseph and each time we see him pushing the baby-buggie, his expression is of woe. I too enjoy The Lang/Leary Report. Both very smart business people..just viewed from differing angles. |
| OFF TOPIC: Does anyone know when the new Foyles War series is going to be shown in Ontario? |
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I've heard that less firefighters and police die on the job than construction workers, etc. but I can understand Eileen being nervous, since Tony died on the job, on the same street. Paul needs to call but he won't or there'd be no angst. A pass made by a person with power and control over the woman is much worse than the one made by Gary to Tina. He has no power over her and backed right off. If he was persistent, I'd agree with punishment, but he wasn't. He was still stupid enough to ring the bell and come to the door again though. The man is an idiot but she shouldn't have let him in yet again. Great news about Liz. She was so much more fun as landlady than Stella but what will she do? Can she be a bar maid? She could teach Stella a thing or two about having fun. I can't stand the Lang and O'Leary report. He is so arrogant and pompous IMO, but some people like him. I enjoy Foyle's War, Murder in Paradise, and a lot of the mystery series from Britain along with Mr. Selfridge and Call the Midwife. |
| Monique, that is great news. I liked Liz on the show, her clothes......not so much . lol.... But I will love seeing her back on the show. !! This will means we will see more of Steve I hope, I do miss his humor on the show. Wonder if Liz will have anything to do with the Rover's. ? |
| I fear the Katy-Chesney story is beginning to drag on too long. I'm getting close to not caring what happens with the 2 of them. There is no ambiguity with the Tina - Gary story. It is way too long and probably no longer believable if it ever was. |
| Terry: I like the Lang and O'Leary exchange too - love how Amanda handles Kevin!LOL I also like Power and Politics! |
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Forgot to thank you, Susan, for the Foyle's War link. I enjoyed that series so much and am looking forward to seeing Series VIII's 3 episodes. It's always so disappointing that there are so few episodes in a series, but I think they must be very expensive to produce as they do look authentic. BTW, I was curious about the mortality rate for firefighters since Eileen seems paralyzed every time Paul goes to work. I discovered through a report created by Labour Research Department for Fire Brigades Union that from 1978 to 2008 (a 30 year span), there were 122 on the job deaths of firefighters in all of the UK, including England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I think Paul would have more or a chance of an accident getting to work on a roadway, than on the job.
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I just saw this article that says that Liz McDonald is coming back to Corrie. She signed a 6 month contract that the producer hopes to make permanent. The article says she will be back in October. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/liz-mcdonald-returning-coronation-street-1921032 |
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Haili and Susan, my employer had a contractual obligation to provide harassment/sexual harassment education to all new employees and I was on the team that delivered this information. Regarding my co-worker's husband, his advances were considered sexual harassment because they were unwelcome as well as uninvited and his verbal conduct and communication was of a sexual nature. He was not raping, or even touching women. It was all verbal. His custodial jail time was restricted to weekends and he served his time from Friday to Sunday. In the sexual harassment realm, it is about the victim and what the victim feels; it's not about whether the perpetrator feels he's only "joking" or "fooling around". Tina made it very apparent to Gary that his actions were not okay and he did step back, so good on him.
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| vixen13 -- Your workmate's husband must have done a lot more than make improper advances if he had to go to jail. It sounds like that was the best place for him. For those of you interested, here is an article about the new Foyle's War shows. This is a great show, and well worth watching from the beginning if you get the opportunity. It's an opportunity to refresh my clickable link skills: Foyle's War |
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Thank you Gayle. I try. I just cannot stand brutes who bully their partner or women in general just because they are physically bigger and stronger. I love the Lange/O'Leary exchange. Amanda is so smart (as well as beautiful) she often puts Kevin O'Leary in his place. Too bad everyday life isn't like that. I have to say all the debate about the surrogate storyline and Gary's pass at Tina, plus what is to come, should be a credit to the producers and writers of Coronation Street, as after 52 years this is a totally new storyline and nothing like it has ever been done. So a little praise is in order amongst all the criticism. I think anyway. |
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH those people make me so angry!!!!! I don't like creepy Karl and stunned Stella to begin with, then when they are laying that guilt trip on Gloria (whom I cannot stand either) about her money and do what you want along with and the cold shoulder treatment, I have to agree with Gloria wanting a nest egg for herself in her old age. Then when she gives the money to them and they are speechless "oh I don't know what to say"? Well you had plenty to say a while ago. Anyways.............thats my hissy fit. I do hope they do not drag this Karl thing on forever and Sunita's name is cleared. |
| Oh ya, I meant to say, I called it this morning!! Anna gave the money to Tim and said no one needs to know! |
| So many good one-liners in tonights episode, especially from Sylvia!!LOL I love her! Diane's going to have a field-day on Sunday!!LOL |
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SPOILER*** The Croppers tonight were so much more interesting than the stupid s. gang and the attempted kiss that never happened but is now a federal case! Sylvia is as good as Blanche IMO and I love her little remarks. Roy and Hailey have a good relationship and the actors do a great job. Gloria coming through with the money should give her a partnership in the pub and I'll bet she's going to have a lot to say about how it's run. Dev., Jason and Leanne need to put their heads together soon and solve the arson mystery. |
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Terry, you are not "old fashioned" you are a true gentleman. I mean that men like you (and my husband) are class acts that treat all women with respect. Any decent guy in a committed relationship does not "hit" on another woman especially one who is carrying his and his girlfriend's baby. |
| Terry, I guess I'm old fashioned too. |
| Mark - He does have a bit of a look of Gary :-) |
| Mark - Stella was using a mop previously, but maybe this time there was a tough spot that needed a little extra elbow grease. |
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Too late now Monique, Chris' got his guillotine out on the Guestbook.
I agree that the looks and chats between Kylie and Nick are a dead giveaway. Why can't they just shut up about it and stop with all those silly glances. I agree about who still cleans restaurant floors on their hands and knees LOL. |
| Not to excuse Gary in any way, but it's different in this case because the woman he hit on is carrying his child and there was a lot of intimacy with the prenatal classes and him touching her belly all the time to feel his own baby moving. What he did was very wrong, but I'm just saying it can be partly explained by the circumstances of a very strange situation. And he backed off very quickly after she rebuffed him. I think it was a moment of madness and confusion. He should indeed be told off, but not hung, drawn and quartered or be put to the guillotine to quote Mark. |
| Yes, Gary shouldn't have made the pass but Tina has been pretty friendly with him, inviting him for coffee in her apartment, sitting close to him and putting his hand on her stomach. I still say she gives mixed messages and those two always had eyes for each other - and people don't stop everything when the woman gets pregnant - just saying! He backed off when she told him to so it wasn't such a big deal because I think he'll keep his distance now after Tommy's little chat! They should all just shut up about it now but of course they won't and of course Izzy will find out somehow. |
| Jeannie - Maybe I'm old fashioned, but from my point of view, any man who would hit on a woman as pregnant as Tina is, is an absolute pig imo! |
| Terry, it's good to get the male viewpoint on this Tina/Gary thing. Speaking as a woman I think that Tina feels this much more keenly because she is pregnant and because she is carrying Gary AND Izzie's child. That's what makes it so offensive and that's why she's so upset. Yes, she probably has had to deal with unwanted attentions before but this is an entirely different scenario. I can't think of a situation that would even compare with it. |
| We just came back from a 3 week vacation and Corrie didn't record on the PVR! I looked up CBC and they have all the episodes we missed. So, I can't catch up on the guestbook until we see the missed episodes. |
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Vixen - I couldn't have said it better. :-) Regarding the fact that Tina should be used to being hit on because she is so pretty, yes of course, but surely not when she is so pregnant? |
Happy birthday, T. Morton!
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Herbert, I am pretty sure that Karl will be found out and I am sure in Corrie style it will be a big storyline with people starting to put two and two together and figuring out that the evidence just does not add up. ( ie: keys in the hospital room, Karl always hanging around her room.....) Chris, are you sure that is not Karl's fate as well. ? lol.... Daphne, I like that idea of Rita & Dennis buying the pub, not too sure that Tina & Tommy have the brains to run it, but I would like to see Steve be the Landlord again. You are right also about Gloria depending on Stella to support her and Eric also, but I would not sink all my money into the Rover's if I were her. |
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I thought that Tommy overreacted with Gary as well last night. Yes Gary behaved like a jerk especially in such a volatile and emotional situation and yes he deserved to be told off by both Tina and Tommy but for heaven's sake they are reacting as if he tried to rape her or did something purely evil. Of course Tommy is acting out of jealousy and a desire to score points with Tina. They are all acting immaturely in this scenario. This will lead to it all coming out in the open and poor Izzy will be shocked and heartbroken. I agree that Gloria has a right to keep her money for her old age but it is hypocritical of her to get upset at Leanne for not forking out her savings and then not wanting to help out herself. Plus, she got that money as an unexpected windfall from Eric. Not only is this unrealistic, but she was only using Eric for his money and then he left her a surprise windfall. It's not like she worked hard and saved for that money. At least Leanne worked for her savings (as well as the money from the fire at her restaurant, lol). |
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Pearl, I believe, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, that MOP MOMENTS are those instances during intense physical interaction when suppurations are so voluminous that a mop is required to take care of matters.
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Hi Lisa, You ask why Stella & Eva should expect Gloria to share her winfall when they (Stella at least) are in financial difficulties. Twice now Gloria has landed on Stella's door step expecting to be taken in, fed, housed & clothes. Their relationship has not been harmonious in the past - Gloria's opinionated, take over style could be the reason, yet she expect instant acceptance from Stella. Well now she has more than enough money to look after her self, Stella can expect some payback or show her the door imo. Terry M, I have a vague memory of m o p having a different meaning way back in CSUV days. I recall it used in regard to Maxine, but guess it could apply to Deirdre too. |
| do any of the chat room readers have any idea when and/or if karl will ever be charged by the police with the rover's return fire and sunita's murder..he sure is a slimmy charactor |
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Wow! We are in agreement. Gloria does have a right to keep her money for her old age but that said she had no right calling for Leanne to spend her money on what Leanne clearly sees would be a money pit with Karl involved. Personally I think Rita and Dennis should buy the pub and let Tina and Tommy run it. They would have the benefit of the income and could take a back seat and enjoy their declining years. That's if Tina and Tommy are ever a couple of course. The Price family, including Karl, seem to all depend on Stella to bring home the bacon when they should be looking after her. If I was Stella, the last person I would borrow from would be Glo - she would never be free of her and would have no say in anything. And what right has Eva to look daggers at her Gran? I still fail to see why Owen is so broke. It was not ALL his money he put into the repairs thus far. A sizable amount was Stella's. And why is he suing her when he could put a lien on the pub and collect when it is sold. And yes, Anna should let Faye sink or swim with Tim. She insisted on living with him so she must experience the consequences of her choice, otherwise she learns nothing. Finally Tommy of course doesn't let the grass grow under his feet and lets Gary know that "he" knows!! How long before he lets it out in the pub. No time at all I wager. But then no one on the Street can keep their mouth shut so he is not alone in that. His real motivation of course is jealousy but we will pretend he is protective of Tina:-) |
| I didn't mean to suggest that Gary was innocent, just that she should get used to being hit on by men because she is very pretty and that is what men do. She needs to learn to say no firmly without all the hysterics IMO. I think she was over-reacting and was not impressed by her screaming fit. |
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Similarly, JeanF, Gary has probably hit on enough young women to know when someone is rejecting him. Tina's actions, as Gary advanced, indicated she wanted no part of him and yet he proceeded. I think he bears a lot of the responsibility for what followed. He is not blameless yet many see him as the innocent bystander to Tina's rant.
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| Gayle, I agree with you that Tins should stop wailing abouit Bary. As pretty as she is she must have had a lot of men make passes at her before this. She should be used to it by now. I got used to it fast when I was young! |
| Plaid Cat: You won't get any flack from me either!! Tim's made his bed, now he can lie in it!LOL Anna will rescue Tim and I'm sure Faye will go on her trip! That kid sure knows how to weedle her way around with both of them IMHO!LOL |
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I have to agree wholeheartedly with both of you, Plaid Cat and Haili, that Anna needs to back off. Faye has made her choice and needs to learn that there are consequences attached to choices. Every time Anna rescues Tim with meals, laundry or money, the pattern becomes Tim's "go-to" routine and he does nothing for Faye but gets the credit from her. I think Faye is too smug by half and unbelievably rude. "He'll sort it!" Ya! Right! I have lost any shred of respect I had for Gloria. She was overly aggressive when accusing Leanne of not handing over cash to solve Stella's problem and all the while she was protecting her own nest egg. The entire family seems to rely on Stella to provide the money for them to live high off the hog. Eva's a chip off the old grandma block. She swans in from a vacation, all upset that the Rovers is being sold from under her, expecting to be taken care of and offering no contribution in solving the family's problems. Her calling out Leanne for giving Stella a skivvy's job was OTT yet so typical.
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Plaid Cat - I agree with your comments regarding Owen's feelings about Tim paying for Faye's school trip. Haili I concur with you that Gloria is a complete hypocrite she fully expected Leeanne to subsidize the pub rebuild yet she has had a windfall and said nothing for days. I would assume a woman of her age would be receiving some sort of pension. I almost broke out laughing at the scene when Eva walked into the bistro and saw Stella scrubbing the floor on her hands and knees, come on writers can you not come up with anything more realistic? It looked like something you see in a movie based on a Charles Dickens novel! What was the point of Eva mouthing off at Leeanne in the Bistro and Owen at the builders yard saying we are going bankrupt. Eva is a grown woman with a full time job and who obviously has lots of money to go on holidays it's certainly not up to her mother to support her. I am getting so tired of Tina going on about Gary's attempt to kiss her. I understand she was uncomfortable with it and she has told Gary to back off I thought her telling Tommy was a very bad idea. Tina agreed to be a surrogate for Gary and Izzy she needs to keep her mouth shut and get through the pregnancy. |
| Plaid Cat; you'll get no flack from me. Anna should back off and let Tim and Faye sort things out for themselves. It might do Faye good to miss a school trip and teach Tim a lesson too. Faye sure knows how to speak up for herself and get her own way with Anna; she should use those skills with Tim. I think Tim would have been happy to be a part-time dad but Faye kind of pushed her way in. Maybe she was sick of Anna's smothering. |
| Ok, I might get flack for this, but I agree with Owen telling Anna not to pay for Faye's school trip. Faye wanted to go live with her Dad and Tim took on the responsibility willingly, yet he knows darn well that if he sleeps in late or cant feed Faye her breakfast, he can just run her across to the café and Anna will feed her, do their laundry, bring over leftovers from the café, etc..... Anna should have just given Tim the letter from the school and just leave it at that. When Faye comes crying to Anna, just say oh well, he knew he had to pay the fee for the trip. Back off Anna, let Tim take the fall and teach Faye to get used tot he disappointment. Beginning to see why Tim did a runner from being a Dad all these years. Responsibility is not his thing. Seriously, the Price Clan should have clued in quicker that Gloria had money. Not often she offers to pay for an Engagement party. I can see why Gloria did not speak up right away when she got that money. Why at her age would she want to put all her money into the pub? Do you think Stella would pay her back? Why didn't Stella go to the bank and try and get a loan to fix up the Rover's. ? |
| Mark: I absolutely agree with you that Owen should not have stated the work until the insurance money came through.I think it's been answered before, but didn't she give him money to cover the 'first installment'..i.e tools etc to get him started? I do know that one cheque bounced...I thought it was the second cheque that did not clear but the first was okay? |
| I forgot to say... Owen shouldn't have started the work till Stella got the insurance payout and he knew that she didn't have the money. |
| Jayne(Peeble) from Newfoundland: I'm looking forward to the new Foyle series. So far its all new to me. Cool here today as well. Supposed to get to 30c in the next few days. |
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Haili - Nooo! I'm not going to explain that one.:-) Mark - I think your getting Ken Barlow mixed up with William Roache. Ken has had a lot of girlfriends too but he's not in the same league as his alter-ego. Mark - Tina needed the £ to pay off Tommy's debt. |
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Mark, Ken's "1001 mistresses" were willing participants, whereas Tina wanted no part of Gary.
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Come back Henry !  Don't leave me with all these ladies!
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Tina, you shouldn't've told Tommy as he always wants to react right away, etc. I wonder how soon Tina will have her baby? I enjoyed the last couple of shows though as the story is coming along. The money Gloria is getting being hidden by her was quite an eye opener. She didn't make it clear yet whether she will decide to give some to Stella or not. Really, why bother telling at all unless you will and tell quickly how you want to go forward.
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100 lashes for Gary ! Send Gary to the guillotine ! Chop him up into 52 pieces !
Nobody complains about Ken Barlow having had 1001 mistresses. Gary has to start somewhere if he's going to compete with Ken.  I still can't figure out why would Tina help the Windass family after all that they did to ruin her father's life.
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I'm agreeing with Susan from Thornhill and the other gals about Tina over-reacting. and btw Susan, the Price ladies have gotten those beautiful stylish outfits from donations and Emily's Charity Shop..I'm going to be switching my shopping habits to those kind of shops now! LOL Ann from Bethany..I did not see where I could read your Hubby's first 2 chapters of his newly written book on Amazon. Marie time to come back! you too Elizabeth. Henry..to keep your sanity..you Hafta stay. |
| vixen: those advances must have been a lot more serious than leaning in to attempt a kiss as Gary did. I agree if they're bad enough to cause problems, people should report them and that we should follow our instincts or conscience. I can also see how Tina would be upset and uncomfortable in her circumstances. The sooner that kid is born the better! |
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SPOILER*** I was quite proud of Tommy tonight for standing up to Gary and making him back down for a change, since Tommy's usually a bit of a wimp. I'll bet Gary keeps his distance from now on. Isn't Gloria quite the hypocrite holding on to all that money but expecting Leanne to fork over her money for the Rovers renovation?! I thought her acting was better than usual tonight when she explained why she hadn't told anyone about it. What was the point of Eva going away on holiday and coming back so soon? More filler? Mark: it's not usually lack of affection that makes men stray; it's just wanting variety from what I've seen. TerryM: I forget why Dierdre would be better with a mop. Can you remind us? |
| I think Anna may be starting to see how shifty Owen can be. He doesn't want her to finance Faye's school trip but in the same breath offers to buy Katy lunch. It is not the lack of money he is concerned about but an oportunity to stick it to Tim. Must admit that he did take Eva's slagging off without losing his cool. Why she would expect Owen & co to work for nothing out of pity for Stella makes no sense. |
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Haili, I worked with a women who was married a man known to make inappropriate advances to many of his wife's friends. The friends did not want to cause difficulty, so nothing was said until many years later one of the women began to suffer severe health issues and her doctor recommended that she come clean with her story. So, she went to the RCMP, gave a deposition and amazingly that opened the floodgates and many more women came forward. The guy was charged and served jail time. I guess there are pros and cons to both sides of the coin -- to tell or to remain silent -- and one must follow one's own conscience.
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Haili, that's a good question. I don't know the answer or if there is a correct answer. Mark, are you assuming that if a man makes a pass at another woman it's his wife's fault for not giving him enough affection? Surely not. |
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Off Topic Hi Mark, You left out the word 'back" Tina gave it back last week. Foyle must have gone to the States and now he is back during the cold war. so he has been asked to join MI5. I watched it on Youtube. quite a few actors from other UK series, Rupert Vansitlard, the Lord from HeartBeat, the guy from New Tricks. etc |
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Haili I would just tell her: I think your husband needs more affection.
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Off Topic Selby, I couldn't understand why "Tim's" spot in Foyle's War was. I'm just guessing that that him joining the group MAY be in the cards. Otherwise why was he there?. Quite a few people loved the show, so the PTB decided to add a new series. So far it seems to be great, I like Michael Kitchen, It's cold here today.
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I thought Tina had a right to be cross with Gary. Because she has been paid to carry this baby he seems to think he has the right to run in and out of her life whenever he wants; because she has been paid Tina probably feels she has to cut him some slack. She does have a right to think she can be around them without being hit on. I thought it was outrageous of Gary for the simple reason she IS carrying his and Izzy's baby. She is entitled to think she is safe around them. For her to tell Tommy would be like taking out a front page ad in the local newspaper. He can't keep a secret and it would have caused untold trouble. Mark - Gary did get his £200 back. |
| Dianne - I don't think Ken's absence has been explained yet. As far as the storyline is concerned he's still around. But don't worry it's not the first time Deirdre's been with the invisible man. :-) |
| Sara - Too bad you didn't like the mop scene with Stella and Gail. I seem to remember Deirdre does mop moments much better. :-) |
| Lynn, I thought Sean was wearing his jammies -- a onesie, nonetheless! |
| Patricia from Port Hope: I do remember most of "Tim's" contribution mainly because as the show went on it seemed to be a separate show altogether. But I read (here I think) that Tim is destined to join Foyle and Sam presumably at MI5. I was unaware that the Foyle series carried on after the war and plan to look into the extension this weekend or sooner. I too look forward to Karl's comeuppance and now expect it to happen when he and Stella are at the alter or at least walking toward the entrance. |
| OFF TOPIC: what the heck kind of outfit is Sean wearing on the login page? It looks like a one piece jumpsuit and I cannot see Sean wearing something like that unless forced. I suspect it has something to do with an event in an upcoming plot, but who wears grey and yellow jumpsuits for work? Elvis wore them for work and his jumpsuits were much nicer :-) |
| Very good question Haili! Sort of OFF TOPIC: The husband of a friend of ours did just that but the receiver of the amorous attention (a one-off) chose not to tell the wife and although I know, it was only because she needed an ear to bounce the pros and cons around with. In the end, it has worked out fine. But then again, there isn't an ongoing storyline that needs to be kept afloat week after week! |
Off Topic. This is a new series of Foyle's War. Maybe the character played by "Tim" will show up in a future episode. Maybe Foyle will recruit him to serve on his team with Sam. I too wish Karl will get found out soon. I can't stand the scenes with him. Gloria is a nasty piece of work also. She's is hiding something while making out that Leanne is mean not to help Stella.
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OFF TOPIC Selby. Tim on Corrie( sorry don't know his real name) was a soldier in Foyle's War, he had just got back from the second world war. like you I have forgotten his part in the story. couldn't have been a very big part. It must be a new series I haven't seen these episodes before, Foyle has been asked to join MI5. |
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Dianne from 1:39 - Too True!!! Hi Mark, "lipular" - too funny! By the way, Gary did get his 200 pounds back. Keep up! Tina reaction to Gary's attempt to kiss her indicates her lighting speed imagination. From he is trying to kiss me to he wants to dump Izzy, marry me and live together for ever took 2 seconds. Maybe it has more to do with her growing doubts over the sorrigacy and the ever increacing reality of the baby she will have to deliver and hand over in a few months. It was an over reaction to a pass, but it could have trigered a lot of unspoken emotions she has been ignoring. ps I see no reason for pregnancy to make a woman will lose her sensual appeal. |
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I'm not condoning Gary's stupid pass and I'm sure Tina would be angry and upset as most women would be but is there any need to make a federal case out of it? She needs to simmer down, have the baby, collect the money (if she can) and move on. I'm afraid, knowing how volatile Tina can be, that this baby thing will not go well. If she escapes post partum depression, she'll be lucky. Here's an interesting question: if a good friend's husband makes a pass at you, do you tell her? |
| I tend to agree with those that think that Tina didn't go overboard enough when Gary made a pass at her. Yes, her antenna should have been raised when he bought back her father's ring but that doesn't mean he should make a pass at her. It's just another non-sensical storyline that's going nowhere. I'm also getting really annoyed at the stupid little "I know a secret" glances between Nick, Gail and Kylie whenever David mentions anything about the baby. Da da dahn... And that stupid (for lack of a better word) exchange between Gail and Stella with the mop? I could barely watch it was so embarrassing and so very badly written and acted. Please Corrie writers, get some adults back on the payroll and start writing better scripts... |
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Tina couldn't apologize to Tommy without revealing that Gary made a pass and doesn't want this incident made public -- yet. She's obviously reflecting on how this information, when unleashed on the street, will affect everyone and all their relationships so she's weighing her options. Rita, she thought, would be a safe confidant; maybe Tommy, not so much. I think Tina has more depth that she's given credit for.
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| Lynn - A lot will be revealed today. |
| I agree with those who say Tina over reacted (hormones and confusion?)and she should have noticed that Gary was a little overly attentive. She let him though, when he shows up at her door she could tell him no, but I agree with Haili who pointed out that Tina enjoys the attention. I think that T is feeling more emotional about the baby than she is revealing and trouble could be ahead. I find Gary and Karl both creep me out and in similar ways; they have a very vicious streak and have the potential to be extremely dangerous if cornered (like trapped rats) and we have seen what Karl is capable of. I laughed when he told Stella that he would do anything for her, apparently getting a job is not one of those things though. And what is Gloria scheming about? They keep cutting to her guilt ridden face. I have my theories, she is hiding something from Stella, money I bet because her guilty look is shown after St.ella bemoans her circumstances. |
| Terry: Maybe its a supreme compliment!!!LMAO Good one!! |
| Susan, Monique, Plaid Cat: I like Tina but I too felt she over-reacted with her screaming - I also was hoping she would admit to Tommy that he was right, oh and I LOLd to whoever said she got up awfully fast for a 7 months pregnant woman!!LOL Too funny!LOL |
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Well having the advantage of already having watched the episode to be seen today in Canada, I'm happy to say all the 'Maries' on here will be eating crow later on. :-) Now maybe it's because I'm a man, and not even counting all the other circumstances, I think it is a supreme insult for a man to make a pass at a heavily pregnant woman and I don't blame Tina for being livid with him. But what do I know as a man? Maybe it's a supreme compliment? |
| Tina was nasty with Jason too when she was in her depression or grieving after her dad died. Jason kept trying to help but just got verbal abuse. She does the same thing with Tommy all the time. I still think she sends Gary mixed messages and has right from the start; at least it seems like she enjoys his attention and him hanging around her apartment. I doubt if most women would make such an issue over an unwanted pass. She made her feelings clear and gave him an earful. That should put an end to it, but knowing her it won't. He was an idiot but the Windasses aren't noted for their brains. |
| I'm agreeing with all of the other ladies who have posted about Tina's over reaction to the attempted kiss. I could understand her being upset but to screech at him like she did and then insulting his appearance was a bit over the top. I have been liking Tina lately but sadly her nasty streak has reared it's ugly head again. Why is Tina so snippy with Tommy? Tina doesn't exactly have a lot of friends you would think she would welcome his support. Is Tommy living with Rita and Dennis? Isn't that a little odd that a man in his twenties would be sharing a tiny apartment with seniors? |
| I agree Monique, it made no sense for her to go off on Gary that much. Then it seemed like she was having second thoughts about giving the baby to Izzy & Gary. Gee guess she has forgotten that the baby is not even biologically hers.??? I also thought that she was going to apologize to Tommy, but then that would totally be out of character for Tina since she never admits to being wrong. |
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Well said Monique ! I too was expecting her to thank Tommy for warning her about Gary. Tommy stop groveling and go after another girl! PS: Gary should have asked for his 200 pounds back LOL. |
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Thanks for checking Terry. I guess Gary will be spared the guillotine. |
| In Marie's absence, I have to jump in here. Tina did overreact, and I can't stand it when she starts yelling and screeching like that. She had every right to be very upset, but she didn't have to fly off the handle as if Gary attempted to rape her. Sure she could have demanded answers and told him off, but she was yelling so much he couldn't even put a word in. It's just something I completely dislike about her when she gets in that mood and I can't bear to hear that harsh, yelling voice. Then, when she rang Rita's bell, I thought she was going to acknowledge to Tommy that he was right all along when he said that Gary was after her. She mouthed off at him when he suggested that. The absolute worst scene, for me, was when Tommy apologized to her and offered her some undeserved support. If we're going to have more scenes of her being harsh with Tommy and him apologizing, I can't wait to see the back of her. |
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Mark - No, lipular contact. Susan - I don't think you can say Tina could expect something like that to happen this time, while in her heavily pregnant condition! |
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Replay request: was lipular contact actually made?
Terry, Chesney should have used some duck tape to fill the in the hole. Have you changed your mind about kissing Tina? |
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Mark - Marie IS back, under the name of Susan from Thornhill. Just kidding Susan. I don't know, but when Gary tried to kiss Tina, I never thought a pregnant woman could move out of the way so fast :-) Poor Katy - Her nice dress had a big hole in the front. |
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Mark, I was hesitant to post this, but I DO think Tina over-reacted. But, this is Corrie. Tina, who has been around the block more than a few times, would be able to read the signals and know full well what was coming. She should have avoided being alone with Gary. I'm not saying Gary is innocent, but he tried to kiss her, and Tina must have had this happen before. Not giving blame to either party, but it was a kiss, not forcible rape. I believe this came up once before with Tina. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this. Also, Chesney freaked out over a kiss, and broke up his family. Another point I haven't seen on here is the fact that Stella's insurance claim was denied -- so where did they get the money for Gloria, Stella and Eva to get full, new, beautiful wardrobes if they lost everything in the fire? |
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Mookie, who and why were you thanking, thanking very much in the post you thought we were ignoring? I've just finished reading everyone's posts as we were away for a day or more. I'm o.k. with the story going, but like it when more little humorous lines happen along the way. That being said, I have a hard time thinking of funny things to say myself so pity the writers to find things funny to say.
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Mark, you asked, "Did Tina overreact?" IMHO, Gary's move was at the highest barf-o-metre rating possible and her reaction could be considered rather muted, considering what he did. He violated Tina physically and emotionally. True, we have been getting vibes, as Izzy has, that he was warming up to Tina but she in no way encouraged him or lead him on. I was pleased to see she put him in his place rather than just brush it under the carpet. Poor Ginger! Gary's army pals made a big fuss over Tina, put down Izzy and recognized that Gary had feeling for Tina. Maybe this reaction gave him courage to try it on with Tina, because he went to Tina's rather than Anna's where he was expected. I agree with Kylie that Nick is going to give away their secret if he keeps up with the guilty facial expressions whenever the baby topic is raised.
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I get phone calls from debt collectors for the debtbeats that had the number before me.
A friend was one digit off the library's phone number. And he'd play along: yes your books are here, yes the library is open, etc etc |
| It sounded to me like the phone number stayed with the apt or house, the way the people were talking to Roy. When I moved to this area 12 years ago we got a new number and were told the phone company use old numbers again after they have been retired for only 5 years. It was the number for a Sooter's photo store and was still published on the web so we got a lot of calls just before christmas. We got their calls for a few years. |
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Haili of course it does but to new owner of the same house of the person who died?
You have a better chance of winning the lottery. 
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My prediction: Karl will be arrested at the altar. We all know how Corrie weddings go. My question: Has Ken's absence been explained yet? |
| Maybe if the person dies, the phone number gets passed on to someone else. Maybe that was an unfortunate choice of words! |
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...Ok... so according to tonight's episode, the phone number stays with the house and doesn't change when someone new moves in. Hummm now that's different...
That's right Nick, David will never die. Being "fit" won't help him if he gets hit by a bus. Some people are in denial about death hanging over our heads. Well tonight Katy looked much better than Miss Orange (aka Tina) 
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Mookie: Mall teaser LOL. SPOILER*** Marie: I have a feeling we're going to need you when Tina makes a big drama out of that attempted kiss by Gary. She really does get wound up and almost rivals Anna with her hysterics. Katy looked lovely and that dress did not look cheap. One wonders where she gets the money for all the nice outfits. Perhaps she saved her wages from the kabob shop. Or she has a hidden source of money, much like Karl. |
| Mookie: Cute!LOL |
| Lynn and Monique - Are you sure you didn't read C and P in Classics Illustrated like I did? :-) Wonderful for book reports. I'd worry about old my teachers reading this, but they're probably all dead by now :-), :-( (showing my age again) |
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Mookie - I was just going to say. We are all done with the chocolate topic. But that was a good one. The more you have to think about it, the funnier i.m.o. |
| LOL Get a life Mookie:-) |
| Patricia's posting about seeing Tim on another tv show;reminds me of two months back,when I saw John "Karl" Mechie on a twenty year old episode of "Poirot" on PBS Detroit, one sunday night. Because of the role he plays on Corrie,I kept expecting him to be the villian. Turns out he played a good guy. |
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I'd like to lodge a formal complaint that my last post was either ignored, misunderstood, construed as not funny... or all of the above. Signed, Mookie |
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I do have a feeling that, to some extent, contracts dictate sotry lines. When Audrey's actress, for example, needs her holiday time, her character is written out of the story. Similarly, stories are beefed up for those actors who are still on the set. I guess we've drawn the Windasses for the next little while and since they've been given a couple substantial stories we'll see them to the end of these stories and then they'll go on vacation and someone else will take centre stage. Thank you to all contributors for thoughtful conversations on the GB lately. It's fun to read.
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| To add to my suggestion that Karl's undoing may happen after someone starts questioning how the Rover's fire started, who ever that person might be could become a second (or 3rd) victim if he thinks the athorities might become involved. The 'cover up first murder by commiting a second' is being used on Emmerdale so Stuart Blackburn has used that sunario before with good results. We know that both Hailey and Tina are leaving the show in the future. Though they seem like unlikely targets, Roy becoming a victim of Tony's madness was very unlikely too but the writers have a neat knack of connecting characters in unusual ways. |
| Patricia from Port Hope, Ontario, Canada. I saw Tim last night. Really didn't see what part his character was playing in the show. Seemed unrelated to everything else, Looked about the same as on Corrie so I assume the show was filmed recently. The number of actors in the UK is astonishing compared to Canada or the US. And they can go one for ever. Saw Penelope Keith on a TVO show on old houses recently |
| I find that the Windasses, Anna, Tina, Katy, Owen are overused. I enjoy Roy, Hailey and Sylvia and hope we hear more of Roy's background this week. I have a feeling that things are about to liven up a bit with the Platts, etc. I like the actor who plays Karl and think he does a good job but I do get tired of Stella and Gloria at times. There could be a good story line ahead if Dev., Leanne or the police start digging a bit and find out who set the fire. I'd like to see Chesney have some fun with the new girl soon and move on with his life. It seems that Katy has moved on with Ryan. |
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Lynn, interesting analysis and comparison. I think I read that book when I was quite young so I would have to read it again. Vixen, I so agree that we don't need tram crashes, Rover's fires, kidnappings and murders on a regular basis. Last week's storylines had more depth. |
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Like many of you I enjoyed the show this past week with its more human problems and less over the top drama. I agree that Kreepy Karl will be exposed due to is own doing. It is all very Dostoyevsky -- Crime and Punishment where the protagonist is undone by his guilt over a killing. Like Karl, the protagonist,Raskolnikov tries to justify to himself the righteousness of the killing but it is not that easy to do. Sorry for the Russian literature analysis, old habits. It thought right away that the writers have their copy of C&P out to reference the unwinding of a man who thinks he may get away with murder. If anyone is interested Crime and punishment is in the public domain and is free for ereaders and some other formats. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2554. I have been thinking of this novel for weeks as I watch Karl become a little twitchy about the fire and death of Sunita. |
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Corrie Star. Did anyone see the character who plays Tim on Foils War last night? It was on TVO at 9pm. |
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Forgot - Sharon - I wasn't trying to help your work colleague, she doesn't need help, she needs someone to communicate with her which in the end should help you. Mark - I hope you were joking about the firing or the asthma attack. Less dangerous to just tell her what is bothering you:-) |
| I find Karl creepy. Can't imagine how the murder will come out but sure hope it does. Meantime I will enjoy the slower pace of what appears to be more "normal" life. People arguing over who babysits, emotions over whether to read the letter from the father you hated, parenting if you have epilepsy etc - it's all good. Now if they can keep the continuity on track it will be perfect:-) |
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Monique, what a great analysis of Karl and his situation. Thanks! I also agree that the change in the story lines has been most welcome. The drama is more "internal" as we see characters struggle with emotions -- Izzy with her jealousy issues; Gary with his feelings for TIna; Tina with her horror at Gary's advances; Tommy with his unrequited love for Tina; Anna with her wanting to help Faye, but not wanting to help Tim. And that's just one family. We don't need big dramatic situations like the tram crash, the Rovers' fire, or kidnapping and murder on a regular basis. I like the new direction. JeanF, I have to agree that Karl's actions speak loudly as we saw him carry on an affair with Sunita, move in with her, lie to and belittle her and her children when he grew tired of her, and not rescue her when he could have saved her life. He has shown little evidence of conscience or remorse. I'm thinking he won't give himself up, as Kirstie did. Someone is going to have to find him out, perhaps through the Sunita angle because many feel she couldn't have started the fire. He's with Stella because it's convenient and if he marries her she can't testify against him. She's insurance.
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I don't normally go shopping but I got a coupon in my mailbox for 90% off at the local shopping centre....apparently it was a hoax and the police are investigating this mall teaser. Thank you....thank you very much! |
| Monique: You said everything about Karl I've been feeling as well - it is brilliant how they've been playing it along, and Julie, same here! I'm not finding any of the storylines boring or dull at all, and it is a nice change from the franatic, fast paced storylines that have taken place. |
| It just occured to me that I have mentioned that the writing is kind of off these days and have given the writers the excuse of having to work around Kevin and Ken's absence. But really, when you think about it...neither one of them was involved in a major plotline were they? |
| Thanks Jean. Hasn't Stella appealed the rejection by the insurance company? What's going to happen to her appeal when it's discovered that her fiance (or husband if it goes that long) started the fire? It will look like they planned it together, maybe so she could get back with him instead of the other way round. *UK spoiler* I usually don't know what songs they're playing and therefore can't relate them to what's happening. But in last night's UK eppie. "I fell into the burning ring of fire." That was great. |
| Leah, if you can't imagine hiding your emotions if you were involved in a crime that only proves that you are not a psychopath or sociopath...they have no conscience and can act just the way Karl is acting. I have known a few and they really have almost no feelings. Good for you for being humane! |
| Monique, the storylines on corrie are a bit dull right now ( but I really do not mind) also cause the writers have had to re-arrange storylines due to Michael Le Vel and Bill Roache having to be written out so quickly due to their legal troubles, so that shakes things up. |
| Monique: I enjoyed this week also. I do think that Karl is going to crack under pressure at some point and seal his own fate...Now is he going to take Stella hostage or murder the Mother in Law in the meantime....Who knows? |
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Vixen, good point about absolutely no one knowing anything about Karl's story whereas there were 4 people who knew Kirsty's story and others who had heard things. That helped with Kirsty's undoing. But while the fact that Karl's secret is safe makes it easier for him to keep his cover in the short term, I believe it is also what will make him crack eventually. It will prove very difficult to bear the burden of such a terrible secret without the relief of talking about it with anyone at all. Even Kirsty had to break down and tell her mother. I predict that Karl's undoing will come from erratic behavior caused by his own guilty feelings combined with someone, most likely Dev, digging deeper to find answers. I personally love the Karl story. It breaks with the pattern of a criminal act being committed and the person being found out soon after. We get to see a killer go on with his normal daily life while we wait with anticipation to see when he'll crack. And when he starts to crack we'll probably be able to see how the situation slowly breaks him down psychologically instead of a major spectacular discovery. At least I hope that will be the case, I can't say for sure but I have a feeling that is where the story is going and this is the reason it's developing so slowly. I think it's brilliant. I enjoyed this week's episodes and I don't think Corrie's too slow. The stories are more low key instead of involving heavy drama but there are many interesting little stories developing at a realistic pace. My favorite one is the one with Roy because of the endearing scenes between Roy and Sylvia. Then we have the issue of David's epilepsy resurfacing and how he's dealing with it. Little Max handled the situation very well. And Gary has feelings for Tina and made a pass at her. She pushed him away in no uncertain terms and now he's dealing with his confusion about how he feels about Tina and his relationship with Izzy. That is such a refreshing change from the feeling attracted and jumping into bed scenarios. Even the scenes with Tim and Faye and Tim's inadequacy with parenting and the mature way Anna is dealing with it is refreshing compared to the usual hysterics. I find this week's stories had a lot of interesting insights instead of the over the top heavy duty drama. Isn't that what we're always saying Corrie should be like? If this is an example of the new producer's work, I am very satisfied. |
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It looks to me like it will be Karl's guilty conscience that will be his undoing. But since that was how Kirsty was revealed, I think they are going to have to stretch it out for a while yet. Also Stella and Karl are to be married. That would be not a nice thing for Stella to find out after they're married. But we'll see, I don't really know what's going to happen. |
| Jeannie and Vixen. Maybe Karl hasn't slipped up and revealed something because no one except Jason has questioned him closely about starting the fire, and Jason wasn't in the Rovers when it happened. The incredibly stupid officers were too quick to close the case, blaming Sunita. Since Sunita was in a coma and then passed away, they didn't do a thorough job of questioning anyone at all. I bet any competent copper could get old Karl to crack in five minutes and we'd be spared this boring, long-drawn-out storyline. Unfortunately, on Corrie, there aren't any bright boys in blue. |
| Oh, now I see what you mean, Vixen13. Didn't someone mention something about Paul smelling smoke on Karl when he came back to the bistro after setting fire to the Rovers? |
| I have a feeling that Karl will give himself away by inadvertently mentioning something either about the keys, or missing something during the strip-a-thon at the bistro or another minor incident that will get someone thinking - 'that doesn't fit what happened'. It could be Stella who starts to wonder but more likely Leanne or Nick. Personally I would like Jason to uncover the truth, but that is not likely. |
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Jeannie, no one knows that Karl was involved in what happened at the Rovers. The blame has fallen on Sunita, and altho' Karl hasn't really accused her, he has let the false accusation stand. No one has accused him and even tho' Leanne does not trust him, she's hasn't blamed him. He seems "home free" unless he gives himself away. No one else but Karl has a piece of his story to share. Karl's armour -- his protection against being found out -- is very strong as no one can contradict his lie about "saving Stella", as all observers think they saw Karl save Stella. Kirstie's crimes, on the other hand, were known to Tyrone, since he was the victim and he shared Kirstie's violence with Tina and Tommy. Others heard altercations at Tyrone's and misinterpreted them, but were still aware that something was going on. There were a lot of witnesses who held pieces of Kirstie's story and that, in part, brought her down. Am I making any sense? I expect we'll find a secret observer who saw it all and comes forward to accuse Karl of the crime. What other theories are out there as to how he's going to get caught, as we all know he will?
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Back from me holidays and a bit late today... High noon at the Rovers. Owen was intimidating but he didn't actually touch Karl who equally didn't back down. Owen isn't considering a solicitor and really, there's not a lot they could do anyway. Karl keeps playing the hero for Stella, keeping her on the sweet side. Gloria is meddling with everyone and anyone, trying to get Leanne to put her cash into the pub. Meanwhile, Stella's solution is to offer Owen a partnership in the pub. He still isn't going to be able to pay his crew, though, is he? Stella has said Yes to Karl's proposal. More fool her. Gloria's thrilled but Stella knows she's probably the only one. Eva was more thrilled about a new frock. Leanne was dead set against it and Karl. But when Gloria found out that Stella offered Owen a partnership she mentioned having a bit put by and looked decidedly shifty. She can afford to thrown an engagement party, and all. Owen would still end up having to get a loan to pay his crew and buy more supplies. It's a difficult spot in the short term but he thinks he can do it. Anna's not so sure. Catching the Prices celebrating and spending money infuriated him. Even when he found out Gloria paid for it, he decided he'd be suing for his cash. And how can Owen afford to eat and drink at the Bistro these days? Owen is furious, Stella is worried sick. In Owen's position, I'd probably sue, too. Stella doesn't have a choice but to put the pub up for sale and get a job. I'm surprised Kevin isn't charging them all rent but that's another plot hole really. I mean, wouldn't you at least charge a nominal rent or ask them to pay the utilities? Karl should get a job too. Stella's going to take advantage of Leanne and take a job at the Bistro but she thought it might be as bar staff. What she got was cleaner. Does a tiny place like that need two cleaners? And Gail already looks at Stella as a rival, co-mothers-in-law after all. Stella reckons cleaner's wages will pull her out of the hole. It won't hurt, i suppose and Karl should definitely get of his backside and it's about time he offered. kI don't know if we were supposed to find Gail lording it over Stella and her mops funny but it wasn't. Why did Gail even need to have more than one mop? I really don't see why the Bistro even needs two cleaners. Now Leanne is feeling guilty about not lending Stella the money and Gloria is making noises about finding other ways out of the hole. Norris manages to get his nose into everywhere doesn't he? He's such a nasty git and wasted no time spreading the gossip. He speculated that Stella burned it down herself. But they already think that Sunita did it on purpose, so why would he think that? And arson isn't a reason for insurance not to pay out unless you've done it yourself or practically handed the keys to someone that did it. I loved the little exchange between Sally and Gail, however, when Sally was dying to find out and since the Prices are in Kevin's house and Kevin isn't there, Sally can take it upon herself to do a bit of digging. With Gail's "help". Well no, but Sally promised to fill her in. Love it! Nice little scene. Sylvia seemed intent on hiding the letter from Roy but Hayley doesn't understand why. Maybe Sylvia has a point and Hayley in her everlasting quest for honesty and truth (just like Roy of course) just might be opening a wound that shouldn't be opened. Hayley is determined that Roy find out about the letter so Sylvia was backed into a corner. Roy decided not to open the letter. He's closed the book on his father and that should be an end of it but you know Hayley won't be able to let it go. It's clear, no matter what Roy says, that the idea of communication with his father has thrown him. He was very defensive about it too, even when Hayley hadn't said anything else. Clearly it's on his mind. He's debating and fretting and cleaning now. What to do? Roy doesn't need the nagging. He is curious about the letter no matter what he says. His mind isn't on his job and he's just going to have to bite the bullet. Hayley and Sylvia pushed and pushed until he opened the old wound. There's no going back now. Even Gail can tell that David's fussing and overworking himself. All of this business about David working too hard, everyone saying it's not good for you but no word about his epilepsy until he collapsed and then nobody even blinked and seemed surprised, like his epilepsy was a routine thing when really, it had been forgotten in the show for a couple of years now. He took a funny turn or two in the salon and he even took a bit of a funny turn in the Bistro, though it was odd that Steve was the one that jumped up, concerned. Audrey and Nick are both arguing about how to give David a break and make sure he doesn't suffer financially. Must be nice working for family! Audrey is fussing over David who really does think he's handling it. Again, she keeps skirting around his health issues. Does she think mentioning the E word is going to send him round the bend? Katy is back. Can't find someone to mind the baby. David's storyline needs a bit extra to make it more scarey. Therefore David looks after Joseph just before he collapses in the park. What a scary thing for a child to see but Max did manage to call Nick when David collapsed. Usually epileptic seizures only last a couple of minutes. David must have been out for longer than that if he didn't come round until Nick got there. Even providing it was at the neighbourhood Red Rec, it would have taken Nick longer than a couple of minutes to drive there and find them I would think. Don't take David home, take him straight to the medical centre, people! Well they did talk him into going at least. And now Nick knows that Sally knows the paternity secret. It's all thrown David for a loop. All he has to do is take care of his health and take his meds and it's unlikely it's going to happen. He went a couple of years without a problem, after all. It will be hard with a new baby but he's got a good support network. David's worried now if the baby could have epilepsy and wants to see if there is a test. That's going to put Kylie in a spin. Why? The baby could prove not to have the gene and that only means the baby doesn't have a gene for epilepsy, not that the baby's not David's. But it does also mean a genetic test will tell you who the father is, too. Where'd Karl get the overalls? This episode was filled with people that never seemed to be friends in the past being all over each other. Dennis and Rita, Steve and Michelle at the engagement party? Gloria and Rita dislike each other. Steve and Michelle are hardly Stella's best friends and Steve has sacked Karl about 18 times. Carla is intent on having Rob and Peter make friends. I don't think it's ever going to work. Peter threw Marcus into the mix as a buffer. Talk about feeling like a fifth wheel in the middle of a peeing contest. Kylie needs new maternity tops and Gail offers her some clothes. She's even tinier and it's unlikely Gail still has 22 year old maternity clothes. Gary's been invited to an army reunion of a few mates. Tommy does want Tina back but reckons she doesn't want him back. Izzy discovered the 200 pounds that Gary spent on the ring for Tina and Anna overheard it and raked him over the coals for it. Gary in return, threw her quick rebound with Owen after Eddie's departure in her face. Izzy was suspicious enough to ferret out the truth and confronted Gary straight away about both the money and Tommy's accusations about fancying Tina. Tina was horrified and stoutly denied anything was going on. So did Gary but we know he's got a thing for her. I'm glad Izzy tore a strip off him. He's in denial about how he feels. Tina considered giving the money back and that in turn, makes it not a gift and it's the right thing to do. Gary found the ring, Tina's paying for it. Gary's pissed and blames Tommy for putting a bug in Izzy's ear. Take responsibility for your actions, mate. Gary wants to avoid the reunion but Izzy insisted. She's also forgiven him for spending the money on Tina's Dad's ring. She's handing over cash, probably some of the money Tina paid back for the ring. Funny thing is, though he does fancy Tina, he really does love Izzy, I'm sure but he wasn't too happy when his mates were all over his photo of Tina. Green eyed jealous monster, for sure. He wasn't happy to see Tina arguing with Tommy either. So again, he decides he should look after Tina but with a few beers under his belt, feeling down about army mates, and the green eyed monster loose, he made a pass at her. Tina wasn't having any of it which is refreshing. Tim isn't the keenest father is he? Not really finding a comfortable routine and Faye doesn't really care if she's late for school. She's just happy with her Dad. Tim's still struggling with parenthood and more interested in games on the iPad than making sure Faye's got what she needs for school. Anna's discovering that Faye is living off takeaway and having to watch football. It's clear she's not really happy but she's not giving up yet. Is Tim working? Apparently so. Owen is crabby about Tim being in the house and the obvious, Tim isn't up to parenthood. Anna knows that Faye has to want to come home oh her own. Meanwhile she's probably not eating properly and seems to really know her way around the kitchen. Chesney really needs a serious attitude adjustment. He wouldn't look after Joseph and then accused her of palming him off on David callously. He knew about the appointment, after all. Accusing her of lying, and not looking after him because he thought she was lying, or so his ranting implied had me cursing at the screen. I wish both of these people would just go away. Even if Rita and Dennis didn't really belong at the engagement party, it was nice to see them. Lines of the week: Norris "This isn't tittle tattle, you know" (It isn't, David about the baby "Think he'll look like me?" Gail "I hope so!" (more than you know) Sylvia "Truth at all cost but at what cost?" (she's got a point) Karl "It's Stella that saved my life" (Gag me) David to Gail "What about when you were pregnant with me? 'Frankie Says Abort'" (ouch that was uncalled for Rita to Chesney whose looking at magazines "Comics are over there, luv" Chesney "I'm 18" (so?) Gail "If I gave my demons and inch, they'd run amok!" (wouldn't they just!) Sylvia "Did I hear you say that Kirk is helping him (Craig) with his homework?" Beth "What's wrong with that?" Sylvia "How long have you got?" Nick to Sally "Are you always this nasty about your neighbours?" (yes) Tina "we should never let men get involved in this baby making thing" (erm...) Gail "Two mothers-in-law on the same payroll will only work if there are clear boundaries" Sylvia "Does it hurt? Would you like me to kiss it better?" Kylie "You get pregnant, everyone wants a piece of you" |
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Stella working as a cleaner doesn't ring true since she could make a lot more in tips as a waitress or bar maid, but I suspect the writers put her into the Bistro to somehow find out about Kylie and Nick. With Kylie taking time off though, she could have worked as a waitress part of the time. I also agree that Corrie hasn't been nearly as good lately but I think it's because of the featured characters getting too much screen time with too little plot. The Windasses, Tina, Stella and Karl are on most of the time. It's time to move things along. Corrie is always a bit slow in summer, but it isn't summer yet! I'd like to see Dev. re-think the keys and somehow solve the arson case. |
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Thanks for the welcome back Terry! I check this guest book every day before I start work and love some of the comments that are made. Especially Henry, who is very erudite. Hope he does not stay away for long. Yes, Carl is giving nothing away, that I can see, but surely there will come a time when things start to percolate. Maybe Dev will figure it out about the keys. As for Stella working as a cleaner, that's the height of stupidity because she could get a job at another pub as a bar maid. When is Carl going to get himself a job? He really is a waste of space, lol. |
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Leah, I think Karl is feeling the pain of a guilty conscience. Remember the scene with Owen where he all but begged Owen to strike him. I think part of him wants to be punished. Vixen13, I'm not quite sure what you mean about "cracks in his armour". Perhaps not quite what Leah was referring to. Could you explain further, maybe give an example using another nefarious Corrie villain? Henry, I truly hope you haven't retreated from the GB. Your comments were perceptive, articulate, and accurate. I liken the GB to a good party: lots of lively discussion and lots of differing opinions. |
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In a storyline that has been as long as the Karl/Sunita/fire theme, the villain (read:Karl) usually reveals to the viewer some hint about how he's going to be unmasked. So far, this storyline has been too bland and Karl is giving away nothing. Has anyone seen cracks in his armour to this point? All Corrie villains get what's due them, with time, and maybe this storyline is stretching out to the actor's extended contract. I can hardly wait! I hope that Leanne's drinking with Karl and Stella doesn't mean she's beginning to trust him and is about to be taken in as well.
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Well, I finally got caught up with this week's Corrie and am sadly dissapointed. What is going on?? Other than David's episode in the Red Rec, it seems that every scene is either in the Bistro, the Caff or in someone's living room. I do understand that the writers have had to do some juggling what with recent events, but how long has that been? Surely they have been able to move on a bit??? Maybe I am being too critical. Maybe the current cast are just not working for me. I usually love the villains on this show (Tony Gordon - loved him...miss him and his menacing ways) but Karl as a villain just isn't working for me. Ach! There is something off about this show right now. |
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Hi Jo-Anne - I was happy to see your post, as I've often wondered how you were doing since you moved from beautiful downtown Kanata. :-) I glad to read that all seems fine with you and your books are still doing well. Also happy to see you are still a Corrie fan. Hope you'll post more often. Cheers. |
As a long time lurker, and once regular poster, I am now getting increasingly frustrated with Carl and Stella. I think Leanne is right not to trust him and that Stella is a few bricks short of a load. Let's hope someone, or something, comes along to make sure Carl gets his comeuppance.
Looks like David is heading into a major storyline now since he had an epileptic fit. Gail will be smothering him with mothering if I know her.
My latest book "Taking Stock" is now on Amazon and will soon be an e-book. The previous one also available is "The Emperor's Women" which is also an e-book. That makes six available now. I am very pleased with the UK sales of 'The Emperor's Women'. They must read more over there!
Why do we not get more scenes of Steve and Eileen? Does she not work at the cab office any more? I am not much enamoured of Paul these days. Gary seems to be falling for Tina and shoving Izzy aside. That's a problem in the making for sure.
Things move slowly these days on the street and humour is certainly vanishing. Still, I keep watching.
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| Wow - I will never again go off topic! I have done everything I can do to accomodate this coworker...why am I getting advice on how to help her? Aye carumba again...Mark thank your for at least getting what I have been saying!!! Terry M...love you! |
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ANNETTE: Read it? Only about 15 times!!!!, I do his editing. You can read the first two chapters for free on Amazon...THE CHALFONT FORTUNE. |
| It amazes me that, except for some emotion over Sunita's funeral, Karl is being so cool. You'd think he'd give something away but instead he seems to have convinced himself that he had nothing to do with the fire. I've never been involved in criminal activity but I don't think I could hide it for a second if I had. |
  
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Daphne: Yes I loved that Mother-Son scene as well. Maybe someone at Granada IS reading the Guestbook afterall!
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So true, Daphne!
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Sharon - everything you have said to us should be said to the work colleague. If you don't tell her she won't know and won't correct her behaviour. If you shy away from confrontation then do it via e-mail. Let her know her musk bothers you and her husband wears too much cologne, otherwise you can't expect her to change. If you have already taken it up with her then the next move is to involve those above you both in the pecking order. I so loved the dialogue between Roy and Sylvia over the burns and sticking plaster. It was such a mother and son moment. One of those Corrie gems I thought. Two cleaners at the bistro? And Sally doing what Sally does best. Dig the speck out of someone else's eye while ignoring the beam in her own. I think Stella needed to work at the Bistro because there is an unwritten law that people who live on Coronation Street, a)live there (or so close it makes no difference) b) work there, c) marry someone from there, and d) have affairs with someone from there. |
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I'm here to defend Chesney since I can no longer defend Ken. Chesney had his day planned and he has to work for a living but Katy didn't ask him to take Joseph until the last minute. If she had any brains she would have lined up a sitter when she made the dental appointment but she expected Ches. to drop his work related plans right away. In the past when he's had Joseph, she sneaked off to see Ryan so we can hardly blame him for refusing this time. As for the scent problem, I have a neighbour who's supposed to be allergic to perfume but she uses those scented dryer strips or detergent. When she does laundry I have to keep my door shut. She's also supposed to be allergic to flowers but has no problem sitting outside between 2 gardens. It would be cruel to the rest of the employees to bring in dollar store perfume and scented strips. I use the dollar store deodorant spray on my garbage when I put it out, to deter raccoons. It's so strong it's hard to wash off my hands so I'm careful how I spray and do it at the curb. |
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Hi Leah, yes to sticky notes! I use both real life stickies as well as virtual notes on my computer's desktop. I need the combination of the two reminders to get me through life sometimes. ☺ |
| Chris, thank you so much for the update on the UK episodes. I've made a sticky note of them. Much appreciated. Great invention, sticky notes. They've saved my bacon a few times. |
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OFF TOPIC: Vision TV will be airing Season 1 of Call the Midwife on Wednesdays at 9.00 pm ET/6.00 pm PT commencing May 29 running to July 3. ☺ |
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I stayed up Friday morning till 1 am to watch Corrie as a way to forget that day before going to bed and the CBC station went blank at 1:10 am; the other stations were still broacasting.
Why didn't they put Stella behind the bar and get Carl to clean? Stella should know how to mix a drink. Better yet put her behind a sewing machine at the factory. Anyone can do it by looks of how anyone gets hired over there. Annette, in Chesney's defence he said he had to go to the suppliers. But then last night he was all surprised and didn't know where Katy was. He has a bad memory. I liked Kylie's black and white dress. If I was Roy, I would have asked Hayley to open it and asked her to read it to me. I hate opening the mail as it might be a promotion. Especially those life insurance ads, I hate those. |
Sharon, is she a smoker? ... Smokers can't smell anything? One lady I know in passing, smokes and wears a ton of perfume much like a skunk leaving it's trail. Here's what you do: Plan A: collect those scented perfume strips from magasines and stick them under her desk. Plan B: Buy cheap women's perfume at the dollarstore and every day dump some on her office chair. Hopefully that will trigger an asthma attack in her or get her fired. Plan C: Buy a cheap men's cologne at the dollarstore and dump that on her chair to make her husband jealous when he notices another man's cologne on her. |
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Sharon Oops. You're right. I misunderstood. My apologies. |
| Those who invest in chocolate put their money behind bars...sorry - still waiting till Sunday to be able to make some Corrie comments! |
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Guestbookers who look to YouTube for current UK episodes, should note that there are upcoming ITV schedule changes that will impact when episodes can be uploaded and subsequently viewed. Corrie will be on almost every night next week starting this Sunday at 9.00 pm. Here you go: * Sunday, 26th May at 9.00 pm * Monday, 27th May at 9.00 pm * Tuesday, 28th May at 9.00 pm * No episode Wednesday, 29th May * Thursday, 30th May at 9.00 pm * Friday, 31st May at 9.00 pm☺ |
| Love the chocolate banter! You guys are so talented!!LOL |
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Re: The chocolate theme...Did you hear about the fight in the candy shop? SWEET MARIE knocked the nuts off OH HENRY. This chocolate theme seems FLAKY to me. I'm not keeping SKOR, but it seems tied beTWIX Terry M. And Mookie. |
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Ann from Bethany..Huge congradulations to your hubby! Have you read it? (always wondered if Steven King's wife reads his books) What is 'The Chalfont Fortune' about? Fiction/non fiction? Loved the chocolate talk..just wish I coulda found something with my fav choccy..Ferrero Rocher. It's name is way too fancy for it's own good.LOL I was really annoyed with Chesney this week. Yipping at Katey when he had left her in a no-win situation...then putting the blame ALL on her. He wants to hurt her and in doing so, it hurts Joseph most. He needs to grow up. |
| Sharon: My MIL has done the same thing, told the whole family she can't tolerate perfumes, yet everytime I see her, she's wearing something that's scent related. She always smells like she just poured Fleecy all over herself - and it lingers forever. Either she is not sensitive to scents or she just wants to make sure everyone around her can smell her! It's so stupid. |
| Susan - maybe you misread my posts - the co-worker is the one who wears perfume - I do not use scented products because she has asked that all people she works with respect HER request for a scent free work environment. We have ALL respected her request, yet SHE still wears perfume...therein lies the frustration. |
| Ann, congratulations to your husband. Bet you are both "right chuffed" :-) |
love the candy bar patter... I think I missed today's epi, hope it's on later tonight. Loved Max's handling of the situation.
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Ann - Congratulations to your husband on his book. I know how much work goes into something like that. Sharon - I like Black Magic, I make them disappear very quickly. :-) |
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Gayle - no word of a lie - he came to visit her each of his 2 breaks and his lunch and then if he happened to be walking by... Will reply to the rest soon! I'm off to Fortinos to buy chocolates! Anyone want anything... xo |
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Pearl: Yes! Those scenes were funny!LOL Haili: Love it!LOL |
| I've been finding Corrie a bit dull and dragged out lately and maybe I'm not alone since the main topic seems to be chocolate bars. Let's all Nestle down and hope for more excitement next week and that the Rovers is renovated from Crispy Crunch to something new and interesting. |
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| Read this on another site, "Gail the mop Nazi" perfect!!!! |
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WAY OFF TOPIC:- My husband's book THE CHALFONT FORTUNE has just been published for download on Amazon... we are so excited. |
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